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From: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alek.du@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] timekeeping: Add persistent_clock_exist flag
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:23:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50CBB4D5.6080504@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121214215651.GA31384@obsidianresearch.com>

On 12/14/2012 01:56 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 01:22:50PM -0800, John Stultz wrote:
>
>> Although from a timekeeping perspective, the read_persistent_clock()
>> interface is actually *much* preferred over the rtc HCTOSYS device.
>>
>> Since read_persistent_clock() has the requirement that its safe to
>> call with IRQs disabled, we can use it in the timekeeping
>> suspend/resume code, which allows for better time accuracy.
> Sure, but my view on this is that it has nothing to do with
> read_persistent_clock. If the RTC driver can run with IRQs off is a
> property of the RTC driver and RTC hardware - it has nothing to do
> with the platform. ARM platforms will vary on a machine by machine
> basis. The rtc-mv driver used on my ARM system is perfectly
> re-entrant, lots of rtc on SOC drivers will be the same.
>
> If this is the only thing keeping you on read_persistent_clock, for
> real RTCs, then how about a RTC_DEV_SAFE_READ flag (or whatever) in
> rtc_device.flags?
>
> Reserve read_persistent_clock for things like that very specialized
> non-RTC ARM counter.
Something like this could work, although I worry it only causes even 
more code paths:
1) read_persistent_clock for non-RTC counters, called from 
timekeeping_suspend/resume
2) IRQ safe RTC called from timekeeping_suspend/resume
3) Non-IRQ safe RTC suspend/resume logic


>> While we're suggesting cleanups, the RTC Kconfig choices probably
>> need a cleanup too, as  the list of all possible drivers can be
>> confusing, when usually each architecture has only a few that they
> That is a general pain with the new 'everything is a driver'..
True, and maybe something I just have to live with.  But I can still 
make holiday wish lists :)

thanks
-john

  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-14 23:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-13  2:05 [PATCH 1/3] timekeeping: Add persistent_clock_exist flag Feng Tang
2012-12-13  2:05 ` [PATCH 2/3] rtc: Skip the suspend/resume handling if persistent clock exist Feng Tang
2012-12-13  2:05 ` [PATCH 3/3] rtc: Skip setting xtime if persisent " Feng Tang
2012-12-14  1:20 ` [PATCH 1/3] timekeeping: Add persistent_clock_exist flag John Stultz
2012-12-14  1:37   ` Feng Tang
2012-12-14  2:00     ` John Stultz
2012-12-14  2:15       ` Feng Tang
2012-12-14  2:38       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2012-12-14  3:13         ` Feng Tang
2012-12-14  4:10           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2012-12-14 21:22             ` John Stultz
2012-12-14 21:56               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2012-12-14 23:23                 ` John Stultz [this message]
2012-12-17 16:14                 ` Feng Tang
2012-12-17 18:22                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2012-12-18  2:44                     ` Feng Tang
2012-12-14 21:36         ` John Stultz
2012-12-20  7:02         ` Feng Tang

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