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From: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>
To: Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"konrad.wilk@oracle.com" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"kexec@lists.infradead.org" <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org" 
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"jbeulich@suse.com" <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	"maxim.uvarov@oracle.com" <maxim.uvarov@oracle.com>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"vgoyal@redhat.com" <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 00/11] xen: Initial kexec/kdump implementation
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:22:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50F02E3B.3090506@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130111132212.GB5150@host-192-168-1-59.local.net-space.pl>

On 11/01/13 13:22, Daniel Kiper wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 02:19:55PM +0000, David Vrabel wrote:
>> On 04/01/13 17:01, Daniel Kiper wrote:
>>> My .5 cents:
>>>   - We should focus on KEXEC_CMD_kexec_load and KEXEC_CMD_kexec_unload;
>>>     probably we should introduce KEXEC_CMD_kexec_load2 and KEXEC_CMD_kexec_unload2;
>>>     load should __LOAD__ kernel image and other things into hypervisor memory;
>>
>> Yes, but I don't see how we can easily support both ABIs easily.  I'd be
>> in favour of replacing the existing hypercalls and requiring updated
>> kexec tools in dom0 (this isn't that different to requiring the correct
>> libxc in dom0).
> 
> Why? Just define new strutures for new functions of kexec hypercall.
> That should suffice.

The current hypervisor ABI depends on an internal kernel ABI (i.e., the
ABI provided by relocate_kernel).  We do not want hypervisor internals
to be constrained by having to be compatible with kernel internals.

>>>   - Hmmm... Now I think that we should still use kexec syscall to load image
>>>     into Xen memory (with new KEXEC_CMD_kexec_load2) because it establishes
>>>     all things which are needed to call kdump if dom0 crashes; however,
>>>     I could be wrong...
>>
>> I don't think we need the kexec syscall.  The kernel can unconditionally
>> do the crash hypercall, which will return if the kdump kernel isn't
>> loaded and the kernel can fall back to the regular non-kexec panic.
> 
> No, please do not do that. When you call HYPERVISOR_kexec_op(KEXEC_CMD_kexec)
> system is completly shutdown. Return form HYPERVISOR_kexec_op(KEXEC_CMD_kexec)
> would require to restore some kernel functionalities. It maybe impossible
> in some cases. Additionally, it means that some changes should be made
> in generic kexec code path. As I know kexec maintainers are very reluctant
> to make such things.

Huh?  There only needs to be a call to a new hypervisor_crash_kexec()
function (which would then call the Xen specific crash hypercall) at the
very beginning of crash_kexec().  If this returns the normal
crash/shutdown path is done (which could even include a guest kexec!).

David

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-11 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-27  2:18 [PATCH v3 00/11] xen: Initial kexec/kdump implementation Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec firmware support Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18   ` [PATCH v3 02/11] x86/kexec: Add extra pointers to transition page table PGD, PUD, PMD and PTE Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18     ` [PATCH v3 03/11] xen: Introduce architecture independent data for kexec/kdump Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18       ` [PATCH v3 04/11] x86/xen: Introduce architecture dependent " Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18         ` [PATCH v3 05/11] x86/xen: Register resources required by kexec-tools Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18           ` [PATCH v3 06/11] x86/xen: Add i386 kexec/kdump implementation Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18             ` [PATCH v3 07/11] x86/xen: Add x86_64 " Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18               ` [PATCH v3 08/11] x86/xen: Add kexec/kdump Kconfig and makefile rules Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18                 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] x86/xen/enlighten: Add init and crash kexec/kdump hooks Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18                   ` [PATCH v3 10/11] drivers/xen: Export vmcoreinfo through sysfs Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:19                     ` [PATCH v3 11/11] x86: Add Xen kexec control code size check to linker script Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27 18:53                   ` [PATCH v3 09/11] x86/xen/enlighten: Add init and crash kexec/kdump hooks H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-27  4:00             ` [PATCH v3 06/11] x86/xen: Add i386 kexec/kdump implementation H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-27  3:33     ` [PATCH v3 02/11] x86/kexec: Add extra pointers to transition page table PGD, PUD, PMD and PTE H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-03  9:34     ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-04 15:15       ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-04 16:12         ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-04 17:25           ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-07  9:48             ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-07 12:52               ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-07 13:05                 ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-09 18:42                   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-10 14:07         ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2013-01-11 13:36           ` Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  4:46   ` [PATCH v3 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec firmware support Eric W. Biederman
2012-12-27  4:02 ` [PATCH v3 00/11] xen: Initial kexec/kdump implementation H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-27  7:53   ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-12-27 14:18     ` Andrew Cooper
2012-12-27 18:02       ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-02 11:26         ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2013-01-02 11:47           ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-03  9:31           ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-04 14:22           ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-04 14:34             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-04 14:34             ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-04 14:38             ` David Vrabel
2013-01-04 17:01               ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-10 14:19                 ` David Vrabel
2013-01-11 13:22                   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-11 15:22                     ` David Vrabel [this message]
2013-01-11 17:34                       ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-11 20:05                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-04 14:41             ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-04 17:07               ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-04 19:11                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-07 10:25                   ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-07 10:46                     ` Andrew Cooper
2013-01-07 10:54                       ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-07 12:34                   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-07 13:49                     ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-11 13:47                       ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-07 16:20                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-11  4:16                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-11 16:55                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-11 20:26                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-11 20:43                             ` Vivek Goyal
2013-01-11 20:26                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-11 20:52                             ` Vivek Goyal
2013-01-11 21:03                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-11 21:08                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-01-11 21:14                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-02 15:27       ` Ian Campbell

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