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From: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add support for S3 non-stop TSC support.
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 17:54:21 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50FF42CD.6010203@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130123013710.GA1046@obsidianresearch.com>

On 01/22/2013 05:37 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 04:41:58PM -0800, John Stultz wrote:
>
>> Right but to calculate an suspend interval (since they are likely
>> many orders of magnitude larger then the intervals between timer
>> interrupts), you need different mult/shift selection.  Its splitting
>> out the mult/shift management into a per-subsystem level that is the
> You are talking about overflow in cyclecounter_cyc2ns and the like
> right? The 64 bit cycle_t and the underlying hw counter (eg 64 bit
> rdtsc) are not going to overflow..
>
> An alternate version of cyclecounter_cyc2ns for use by the suspend
> code that handles overflow during the mult/shift operation solves that
> problem:
>
> // Drops some small precision along the way but is simple..
> static inline u64 cyclecounter_cyc2ns_128(const struct cyclecounter *cc,
>                                            cycle_t cycles)
> {
>      u64 max = U64_MAX/cc->mult;
>      u64 num = cycles/max;
>      u64 result = num * ((max * cc->mult) >> cc->shift);
>      return result + cyclecounter_cyc2ns(cc, cycles - num*cc->mult);
> }
>
> Or am I missing the issue?

Well, cyclecounters and clocksources are currently different things. 
There was some hope that cyclecounters would be a simpler base structure 
that would supersede clocksources, but the complexity of all the 
variants of clocksources have limited the ability to make such a 
conversion. At least so far. I hope to eventually clean that up as the 
potential overlap is obvious - although as the 
cyclecounters/timecounters code never grew as I expected. But I'm not 
sure how soon "eventually" will end up being.

But regardless of historical tangents :), you're right, an alternate and 
slower cyc2ns function could be used to avoid overflow issues.


>
>> complicated part. Additionally, there may be cases where the
>> timekeeping clocksource is one clocksource and the suspend
>> clocksource is another. So I think to properly integrate this sort
> Does the difference matter? The clocksource to use is detected at
> runtime, if the timekeeping clocksource is no good for suspend time
> keeping then it just won't be used. With a distinct
> read_persistent_clock API then they are already seperate??

Not sure I'm following you here.  I still think the selection of which 
clocksource to use for suspend timing is problematic (especially if its 
not the active timekeeping clocksource).  So I think instead of 
complicating the generic timekeeping code with the logic, I'd rather 
push it off to new read_presistent_clock api.

thanks
-john



  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-23  1:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-21  6:38 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add support for S3 non-stop TSC support Feng Tang
2013-01-21  6:38 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] x86: Add cpu capability flag X86_FEATURE_TSC_S3_NOTSTOP Feng Tang
2013-01-21  7:27   ` Chen Gong
2013-01-21  7:59     ` Feng Tang
2013-01-21 15:58       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-22 14:07         ` Feng Tang
2013-01-21  6:38 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] clocksource: Add new feature flag CLOCK_SOURCE_SUSPEND_NOTSTOP Feng Tang
2013-01-21  6:38 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] x86: tsc: Add support for new S3_NOTSTOP feature Feng Tang
2013-01-21  6:38 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] clocksource: Enlarge the maxim time interval when configuring the scale and shift Feng Tang
2013-01-21  7:25   ` Chen Gong
2013-01-21  6:38 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] timekeeping: Add support for clocksource which doesn't stop during suspend Feng Tang
2013-01-21 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add support for S3 non-stop TSC support Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-03-30 18:14   ` Pavel Machek
2013-04-01 17:32     ` John Stultz
2013-04-01 20:31       ` Pavel Machek
2013-04-01 20:41         ` John Stultz
2013-01-21 18:46 ` John Stultz
2013-01-22 14:55   ` Feng Tang
2013-01-22 21:56     ` John Stultz
2013-01-24  3:37       ` Feng Tang
2013-01-24 18:15         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-22 19:57   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-22 20:22     ` John Stultz
2013-01-23  0:26       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-23  0:41         ` John Stultz
2013-01-23  1:37           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-23  1:54             ` John Stultz [this message]
2013-01-23  2:35               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-23  3:07                 ` John Stultz
2013-01-23 19:23                   ` Jason Gunthorpe

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