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From: Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, arjan@linux.intel.com, pjt@google.com,
	namhyung@kernel.org, efault@gmx.de, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	viresh.kumar@linaro.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch v4 0/18] sched: simplified fork, release load avg and power awareness scheduling
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:41:40 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <510493E4.8060602@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51014E34.60309@intel.com>

On 01/24/2013 11:07 PM, Alex Shi wrote:
> On 01/24/2013 05:44 PM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:06:42AM +0800, Alex Shi wrote:
>>> Since the runnable info needs 345ms to accumulate, balancing
>>> doesn't do well for many tasks burst waking. After talking with Mike
>>> Galbraith, we are agree to just use runnable avg in power friendly 
>>> scheduling and keep current instant load in performance scheduling for 
>>> low latency.
>>>
>>> So the biggest change in this version is removing runnable load avg in
>>> balance and just using runnable data in power balance.
>>>
>>> The patchset bases on Linus' tree, includes 3 parts,
>>> ** 1, bug fix and fork/wake balancing clean up. patch 1~5,
>>> ----------------------
>>> the first patch remove one domain level. patch 2~5 simplified fork/wake
>>> balancing, it can increase 10+% hackbench performance on our 4 sockets
>>> SNB EP machine.
>>
>> Ok, I see some benchmarking results here and there in the commit
>> messages but since this is touching the scheduler, you probably would
>> need to make sure it doesn't introduce performance regressions vs
>> mainline with a comprehensive set of benchmarks.
>>
> 
> Thanks a lot for your comments, Borislav! :)
> 
> For this patchset, the code will just check current policy, if it is
> performance, the code patch will back to original performance code at
> once. So there should no performance change on performance policy.
> 
> I once tested the balance policy performance with benchmark
> kbuild/hackbench/aim9/dbench/tbench on version 2, only hackbench has a
> bit drop ~3%. others have no clear change.
> 
>> And, AFAICR, mainline does by default the 'performance' scheme by
>> spreading out tasks to idle cores, so have you tried comparing vanilla
>> mainline to your patchset in the 'performance' setting so that you can
>> make sure there are no problems there? And not only hackbench or a
>> microbenchmark but aim9 (I saw that in a commit message somewhere) and
>> whatever else multithreaded benchmark you can get your hands on.
>>
>> Also, you might want to run it on other machines too, not only SNB :-)
> 
> Anyway I will redo the performance testing on this version again on all
> machine. but doesn't expect something change. :)

Just rerun some benchmarks: kbuild, specjbb2005, oltp, tbench, aim9,
hackbench, fileio-cfq of sysbench, dbench, aiostress, multhreads
loopback netperf. on my core2, nhm, wsm, snb, platforms. no clear
performance change found.

I also tested balance policy/powersaving policy with above benchmark,
found, the specjbb2005 drop much 30~50% on both of policy whenever with
openjdk or jrockit. and hackbench drops a lots with powersaving policy
on snb 4 sockets platforms. others has no clear change.

> 
>> And what about ARM, maybe someone there can run your patchset too?
>>
>> So, it would be cool to see comprehensive results from all those runs
>> and see what the numbers say.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
> 
> 


-- 
Thanks
    Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-27  2:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-24  3:06 [patch v4 0/18] sched: simplified fork, release load avg and power awareness scheduling Alex Shi
2013-01-24  3:06 ` [patch v4 01/18] sched: set SD_PREFER_SIBLING on MC domain to reduce a domain level Alex Shi
2013-02-12 10:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-13 13:22     ` Alex Shi
2013-02-15 12:38       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-16  5:16         ` Alex Shi
2013-02-13 14:17     ` Alex Shi
2013-01-24  3:06 ` [patch v4 02/18] sched: select_task_rq_fair clean up Alex Shi
2013-02-12 10:14   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-13 14:44     ` Alex Shi
2013-01-24  3:06 ` [patch v4 03/18] sched: fix find_idlest_group mess logical Alex Shi
2013-02-12 10:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-13 15:07     ` Alex Shi
2013-01-24  3:06 ` [patch v4 04/18] sched: don't need go to smaller sched domain Alex Shi
2013-01-24  3:06 ` [patch v4 05/18] sched: quicker balancing on fork/exec/wake Alex Shi
2013-02-12 10:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-14  3:13     ` Alex Shi
2013-02-14  8:12     ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-02-14 14:08       ` Alex Shi
2013-02-15 13:00       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-01-24  3:06 ` [patch v4 06/18] sched: give initial value for runnable avg of sched entities Alex Shi
2013-02-12 10:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-01-24  3:06 ` [patch v4 07/18] sched: set initial load avg of new forked task Alex Shi
2013-02-12 10:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-13 15:14     ` Alex Shi
2013-02-13 15:41       ` Paul Turner
2013-02-14 13:07         ` Alex Shi
2013-02-19 11:34           ` Paul Turner
2013-02-20  4:18             ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-02-20  5:13             ` Alex Shi
2013-01-24  3:06 ` [patch v4 08/18] Revert "sched: Introduce temporary FAIR_GROUP_SCHED dependency for load-tracking" Alex Shi
2013-02-12 10:27   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-13 15:23     ` Alex Shi
2013-02-13 15:45       ` Paul Turner
2013-02-14  3:07         ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-01-24  3:06 ` [patch v4 09/18] sched: add sched_policies in kernel Alex Shi
2013-02-12 10:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-13 15:41     ` Alex Shi
2013-01-24  3:06 ` [patch v4 10/18] sched: add sysfs interface for sched_policy selection Alex Shi
2013-01-24  3:06 ` [patch v4 11/18] sched: log the cpu utilization at rq Alex Shi
2013-02-12 10:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-14  3:10     ` Alex Shi
2013-01-24  3:06 ` [patch v4 12/18] sched: add power aware scheduling in fork/exec/wake Alex Shi
2013-01-24  3:06 ` [patch v4 13/18] sched: packing small tasks in wake/exec balancing Alex Shi
2013-01-24  3:06 ` [patch v4 14/18] sched: add power/performance balance allowed flag Alex Shi
2013-01-24  3:06 ` [patch v4 15/18] sched: pull all tasks from source group Alex Shi
2013-01-24  3:06 ` [patch v4 16/18] sched: don't care if the local group has capacity Alex Shi
2013-01-24  3:06 ` [patch v4 17/18] sched: power aware load balance, Alex Shi
2013-01-24  3:07 ` [patch v4 18/18] sched: lazy power balance Alex Shi
2013-01-24  9:44 ` [patch v4 0/18] sched: simplified fork, release load avg and power awareness scheduling Borislav Petkov
2013-01-24 15:07   ` Alex Shi
2013-01-27  2:41     ` Alex Shi [this message]
2013-01-27  4:36       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-27 10:35         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-01-27 13:25           ` Alex Shi
2013-01-27 15:51             ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-28  5:17               ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-28  5:51                 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-28  6:15                   ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-28  6:42                     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-28  7:20                       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-29  1:17                       ` Alex Shi
2013-01-28  9:55                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-01-28 10:44                   ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-28 11:29                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-01-28 11:32                       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-28 11:40                         ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-28 15:22                           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-01-28 15:55                             ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-29  1:38                               ` Alex Shi
2013-01-29  1:32                         ` Alex Shi
2013-01-29  1:36                       ` Alex Shi
2013-01-28 15:47                 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-29  1:45                   ` Alex Shi
2013-01-29  4:03                     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-29  2:27                   ` Alex Shi
2013-01-27 10:40       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-01-27 14:03         ` Alex Shi
2013-01-28  5:19         ` Alex Shi
2013-01-28  6:49           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-28  7:17             ` Alex Shi
2013-01-28  7:33               ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-29  6:02           ` Alex Shi
2013-01-28  1:28 ` Alex Shi
2013-02-04  1:35 ` Alex Shi
2013-02-04 11:09   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-05  2:26     ` Alex Shi
2013-02-06  5:08       ` Alex Shi

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