From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757415Ab3BGBH0 (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Feb 2013 20:07:26 -0500 Received: from h1446028.stratoserver.net ([85.214.92.142]:33926 "EHLO mail.ahsoftware.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755964Ab3BGBHZ (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Feb 2013 20:07:25 -0500 Message-ID: <5112FE21.4020404@ahsoftware.de> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 02:06:41 +0100 From: Alexander Holler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130110 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: MODSIGN without RTC? References: <5112EA69.6010100@ahsoftware.de> In-Reply-To: <5112EA69.6010100@ahsoftware.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Am 07.02.2013 00:42, schrieb Alexander Holler: > Hello, > > I wanted to try out MODSIGN with kernel 3.7.6 and I've just got hit by: > > [ 1.346445] X.509: Cert 6a23533cec71c4c52a1618fb4d830e06aa90474e is > not yet valid > > The reason is likely that the (ARM) device in question doesn't have a > RTC (oh, that topic again ;) ) and gets it's time on boot through NTP. > > The used certificate was generated automatically. Having a look at it, > the following is shown: > > Validity > Not Before: Feb 6 02:56:46 2013 GMT > Not After : Jan 13 02:56:46 2113 GMT > > Without having thought about possible security problems, my first idea > would be to let the validity start at 1970. As I never did such I never > had thought about possible implications when doing such (e.g. I don't > know if someone checks the start date for plausabilitiy) > > Another solution would be to retry loading of the certificate if the > time gets set (and e.g. differs more than a year). > > Has someone already thought about how to solve that problem? Or did > everyone use sane systems which have a (working) RTC? Another option would be to make a configure option to just ignore the date. I'm not sure if I would like to use MODSIGN when I have to fear that the machine wouldn't start when the RTC fails or got set to a wrong date. Regards, Alexander