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From: Michael Wang <wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	alex.shi@intel.com, Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>,
	"Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] sched: simplify the select_task_rq_fair()
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 12:51:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5125A7C8.8020308@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130220104958.GA9152@gmail.com>

On 02/20/2013 06:49 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
[snip]
> 
> The changes look clean and reasoable, any ideas exactly *why* it 
> speeds up?
> 
> I.e. are there one or two key changes in the before/after logic 
> and scheduling patterns that you can identify as causing the 
> speedup?

Hi, Ingo

Thanks for your reply, please let me point out the key changes here
(forgive me for haven't wrote a good description in cover).

The performance improvement from this patch set is:
1. delay the invoke on wake_affine().
2. save the circle to gain proper sd.

The second point is obviously, and will benefit a lot when the sd
topology is deep (NUMA is suppose to make it deeper on large system).

So in my testing on a 12 cpu box, actually most of the benefit comes
from the first point, and please let me introduce it in detail.

The old logical when locate affine_sd is:

	if prev_cpu != curr_cpu
		if wake_affine()
			prev_cpu = curr_cpu
	new_cpu = select_idle_sibling(prev_cpu)
	return new_cpu

The new logical is same to the old one if prev_cpu == curr_cpu, so let's
simplify the old logical like:

	if wake_affine()
		new_cpu = select_idle_sibling(curr_cpu)
	else
		new_cpu = select_idle_sibling(prev_cpu)

	return new_cpu

Actually that doesn't make sense.

I think wake_affine() is trying to check whether move a task from
prev_cpu to curr_cpu will break the balance in affine_sd or not, but why
won't break balance means curr_cpu is better than prev_cpu for searching
the idle cpu?

So the new logical in this patch set is:

	new_cpu = select_idle_sibling(prev_cpu)
	if idle_cpu(new_cpu)
		return new_cpu

	new_cpu = select_idle_sibling(curr_cpu)
	if idle_cpu(new_cpu) {
		if wake_affine()
			return new_cpu
	}

	return prev_cpu

And now, unless we are really going to move load from prev_cpu to
curr_cpu, we won't use wake_affine() any more.

So we avoid wake_affine() when system load is low or high, for middle
load, the worst cases is when failed to locate idle cpu in prev_cpu
topology but succeed to locate one in curr_cpu's, but that's rarely
happen and the benchmark results proved that point.

Some comparison below:

1. system load is low
	old logical cost:
		wake_affine()
		select_idle_sibling()
	new logical cost:
		select_idle_sibling()

2. system load is high
	old logical cost:
		wake_affine()
		select_idle_sibling()
	new logical cost:
		select_idle_sibling()
		select_idle_sibling()

3. system load is middle
	don't know

1 save the cost of wake_affine(), 3 could be proved by benchmark that no
regression at least.

For 2, it's the comparison between wake_affine() and
select_idle_sibling(), since the system load is high, wake_affine() cost
far more than select_idle_sibling(), and we saved many according to the
benchmark results.

> 
> Such changes also typically have a chance to cause regressions 
> in other workloads - when that happens we need this kind of 
> information to be able to enact plan-B.

The benefit comes from avoiding unnecessary works, and the patch set is
suppose to only reduce the cost of key function with least logical
changing, I could not promise it benefit all the workloads, but till
now, I've not found regression.

Regards,
Michael Wang

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	Ingo
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-02-21  4:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-29  9:08 [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] sched: simplify the select_task_rq_fair() Michael Wang
2013-01-29  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/3] sched: schedule balance map foundation Michael Wang
2013-02-20 13:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-21  4:52     ` Michael Wang
2013-02-20 13:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-21  4:58     ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21 11:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22  2:53         ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  3:33           ` Alex Shi
2013-02-22  4:19             ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  4:46               ` Alex Shi
2013-02-22  5:05                 ` Michael Wang
2013-01-29  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/3] sched: build schedule balance map Michael Wang
2013-01-29  9:10 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/3] sched: simplify select_task_rq_fair() with " Michael Wang
2013-02-18  5:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] sched: simplify the select_task_rq_fair() Michael Wang
2013-02-20 10:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-20 13:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-20 14:05     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-21  5:21       ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21  5:14     ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21  4:51   ` Michael Wang [this message]
2013-02-21  6:11     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-21  7:00       ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21  8:10         ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-21  9:08           ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21  9:43             ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  2:36               ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  5:02                 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  5:26                   ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  6:13                     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  6:42                   ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  8:17                     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  8:35                       ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  8:21                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22  9:10                   ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  9:39                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22  9:58                       ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21  9:20           ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21 10:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22  2:37       ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  5:08         ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  6:06           ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  6:19             ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  8:36         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22  9:11           ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  9:57             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22 10:08               ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  9:40           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  9:54             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-22 10:01               ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 12:11                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-22 12:35                   ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 13:06                     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-22 14:30                       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 14:42                         ` Mike Galbraith

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