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From: Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: rong.a.chen@intel.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, mhocko@kernel.org,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Colin King <colin.king@canonical.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lkp@01.org
Subject: Re: [LKP] [mm] 9bc8039e71: will-it-scale.per_thread_ops -64.1% regression
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 12:17:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51265121-6e54-ff3a-cdfa-e5a2b838268d@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whr2Aio3R49TVWqW3es6heyxXDuxGHcv8Bcc=_kw4vDeQ@mail.gmail.com>



On 11/5/18 10:35 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 10:28 AM Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>> Actually, the commit is mainly for optimizing the long stall time caused
>> by holding mmap_sem by write when unmapping or shrinking large mapping.
>> It downgrades write mmap_sem to read when zapping pages. So, it looks
>> the downgrade incurs more context switches. This is kind of expected.
>>
>> However, the test looks just shrink the mapping with one normal 4K page
>> size. It sounds the overhead of context switches outpace the gain in
>> this case at the first glance.
> I'm not seeing why there should be a context switch in the first place.
>
> Even if you have lots of concurrent brk() users, they should all block
> exactly the same way as before (a write lock blocks against a write
> lock, but it *also* blocks against a downgraded read lock).

Yes, it is true. The brk() users will not get waken up. What I can think 
of for now is there might be other helper processes and/or kernel 
threads are waiting for read mmap_sem. They might get waken up by the 
downgrade.

But, I also saw huge increase in cpu idle time and sched_goidle events. 
Not have clue yet for why idle goes up.

20610709 ± 15%   +2376.0%  5.103e+08 ± 34%  cpuidle.C1.time
28753819 ± 39%   +1054.5%  3.319e+08 ± 49%  cpuidle.C3.time

175049 ± 72%    +840.7%    1646720 ± 72%  sched_debug.cpu.sched_goidle.stddev


Thanks,
Yang

>
> So no, I don't want just some limit to hide this problem for that
> particular test. There's something else going on.
>
>                   Linus


  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-05 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-05  5:08 [LKP] [mm] 9bc8039e71: will-it-scale.per_thread_ops -64.1% regression kernel test robot
2018-11-05 17:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-05 18:28   ` Yang Shi
2018-11-05 18:35     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-05 20:17       ` Yang Shi [this message]
2018-11-05 20:09   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-05 22:14     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-05 22:40       ` Waiman Long
2018-12-28  1:31         ` Wang, Kemi
2018-12-28  2:55           ` Waiman Long
2018-12-28  2:55             ` kemi
2019-01-31  0:06             ` Tim Chen
2019-01-31  2:54               ` Waiman Long

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