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From: Michael Wang <wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	alex.shi@intel.com, Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>,
	"Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] sched: simplify the select_task_rq_fair()
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:08:14 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5127438E.1060404@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1361527056.26780.55.camel@laptop>

On 02/22/2013 05:57 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 17:11 +0800, Michael Wang wrote:
> 
>> Ok, it do looks like wake_affine() lost it's value...
> 
> I'm not sure we can say that on this one benchmark, there's a
> preemption advantage to running on a single cpu for pipe-test as well.
> We'd need to create a better benchmark to test this, one that has some
> actual data payload and control over the initial spread of the tasks or
> so.
> 
>>> Now as far as I can see there's two options, either we find there's
>>> absolutely no benefit in wake_affine() as it stands today and we simply
>>> disable/remove it, or we go fix it. What we don't do is completely
>>> wreck it at atrocious cost.
>>
>> I get your point, we should replace wake_affine() with some feature
>> which could really achieve the goal to make client and server on same cpu.
>>
>> But is the logical that the waker/wakee are server/client(or reversed)
>> still works now? that sounds a little arbitrary to me...
> 
> Ah, its never really been about server/client per-se. Its just a
> specific example -- one that breaks down with the 1:n pgbench
> situation.
> 
> Wakeups in general can be considered to be a relation, suppose a
> hardware interrupt that received some data from a device and issues a
> wakeup to a task to consume this data. What CPU would be better suited
> to process this data then the one where its already cache hot.

I see, honestly, I realized that I have underestimated the benefit we
gain from it when saw your testing results...

We do need some better approach to replace wake_affine(), hmm...I need a
draft board now...

Regards,
Michael Wang

> 


  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-22 10:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-29  9:08 [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] sched: simplify the select_task_rq_fair() Michael Wang
2013-01-29  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/3] sched: schedule balance map foundation Michael Wang
2013-02-20 13:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-21  4:52     ` Michael Wang
2013-02-20 13:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-21  4:58     ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21 11:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22  2:53         ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  3:33           ` Alex Shi
2013-02-22  4:19             ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  4:46               ` Alex Shi
2013-02-22  5:05                 ` Michael Wang
2013-01-29  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/3] sched: build schedule balance map Michael Wang
2013-01-29  9:10 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/3] sched: simplify select_task_rq_fair() with " Michael Wang
2013-02-18  5:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] sched: simplify the select_task_rq_fair() Michael Wang
2013-02-20 10:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-20 13:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-20 14:05     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-21  5:21       ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21  5:14     ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21  4:51   ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21  6:11     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-21  7:00       ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21  8:10         ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-21  9:08           ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21  9:43             ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  2:36               ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  5:02                 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  5:26                   ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  6:13                     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  6:42                   ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  8:17                     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  8:35                       ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  8:21                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22  9:10                   ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  9:39                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22  9:58                       ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21  9:20           ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21 10:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22  2:37       ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  5:08         ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  6:06           ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  6:19             ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  8:36         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22  9:11           ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  9:57             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22 10:08               ` Michael Wang [this message]
2013-02-22  9:40           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  9:54             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-22 10:01               ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 12:11                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-22 12:35                   ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 13:06                     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-22 14:30                       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 14:42                         ` Mike Galbraith

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