From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
mtosatti@redhat.com, jan.kiszka@siemens.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: kvm: reset the bootstrap processor when it gets an INIT
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:28:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <513DE9F3.9000802@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130311135441.GN31619@redhat.com>
Il 11/03/2013 14:54, Gleb Natapov ha scritto:
>> Setting the mp_state to INIT_RECEIVED is that interface, and it already
>> works, for APs at least. This patch extends it to work for the BSP as well.
>
> It does not for AP either. If AP has vmx on mp_sate should not be set to
> INIT_RECEIVED. mp_sate is a state as you can see from its name and we
> already had a discussion on the generic device API about importance of
> separating sending commands from setting state. There is a difference
> between setting mp_state during migration and signaling INIT#.
What does migration have to do with this?
>> In the corresponding userspace patch, I don't need to touch the CPU
>> state at all. I can just signal the kernel. If I touch the CPU, I'll
>> break the nested case, no matter how it is implemented. So far, the
>> userspace did not have to worry about nested, and that's something that
>> should be kept that way.
> We are discussing two different things here. I'll try to separate them.
> 1. BSP is broken WRT #INIT
> 2. nested is broken WRT #INIT
>
> You are fixing 1 with your patches, for that I proposed much easier
> solution (at last from kernel point of view): if BSP reset it in
> userspace and make it runnable. Nested virt is still broken, but this is
> not what you are fixing.
It's not what I'm fixing, but I don't want to make the fix for nested
virt unnecessarily more complicated. Nested virt needs to know about
INIT and SIPI; redefining the meaning of INIT_RECEIVED and SIPI_RECEIVED
makes it more complicated to reflect these events to L1.
> For 2 much more involved fix is needed. Jan fixes it and it will require
> signaling INIT# from userspace by other means than mp_sate because
> signaling INIT# does not automatically means that mp_sate changes to
> INIT_RECEIVED.
In your interpretation of INIT_RECEIVED, no. In mine, yes...
>> If we move away from the INIT_RECEIVED and SIPI_RECEIVED states for
>> in-kernel APIC -> VCPU communication, then the KVM_SET_MP_STATE ioctl
>> will have to convert them to the right bits in the requests field or in
>> the APIC state. But I'm starting to see less benefit from moving away
>> from mp_state.
>>
> We are not moving away from mp_state, we are moving away from using
> mp_state for signaling
That's what I meant; sorry for the unclear abbreviation.
> because with nested virt INIT does not always
> change mp_state
Why not? It does change mp_state, it changes how you react to the
change. Which is why it's good to have the reset done in kernel space,
not in user space.
Paolo
> , not only that it can change mp_state long after signal
> is received after vmx off is done.
>
> --
> Gleb.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-11 14:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-09 6:48 [PATCH] x86: kvm: reset the bootstrap processor when it gets an INIT Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-10 11:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-10 14:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-10 15:35 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-10 17:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-10 18:10 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 10:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-11 10:28 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 11:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-11 11:51 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 13:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-11 13:54 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 14:01 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 14:05 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 14:06 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 14:09 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 14:10 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 14:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 14:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 14:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-11 15:36 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 17:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 17:34 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 17:38 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 17:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 18:05 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 18:13 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 18:27 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 18:39 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 18:47 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 18:51 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 19:01 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 19:30 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-12 9:25 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-12 11:28 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 14:28 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-03-11 17:20 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 17:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-11 18:04 ` Gleb Natapov
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