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From: Michael Wang <wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>, Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: wakeup buddy
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 17:41:42 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <513EF856.7060200@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130312084857.GA4859@gmail.com>

On 03/12/2013 04:48 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
[snip]
>>>
>>> Instrumentation/stats/profiling will also double check the correctness of 
>>> this data: if developers/users start relying on the work metric as a 
>>> substitute benchmark number, then app writers will have an additional 
>>> incentive to make them correct.
>>
>> I see, I could not figure out how to wisely using the info currently, 
>> but I have the feeling that it will make scheduler very different ;-)
>>
>> May be we could implement the API and get those info ready firstly 
>> (along with the new sched-pipe which provide work tick info), then think 
>> about the way to use them in scheduler, is there any patches on the way?
> 
> Absolutely.
> 
> Beyond the new prctl no new API is needed: a perf soft event could be 
> added, and/or a tracepoint. Then perf stat and perf record could be used 
> with it. 'perf bench' could be extended to generate the work tick in its 
> 'perf bench sched ...' workloads - and for 'perf bench mem numa' as well.

Nice :)

> 
> vsyscall-accelerating it could be a separate, more complex step: it needs 
> a per thread writable vsyscall data area to make the overhead to 
> applications near zero. Performance critical apps won't call an extra 
> syscall.

If it's really bring benefit, I think they will consider about it,
whatever, that's the developer/users decision, what we need to do is
just make the stuff attractively.

Regards,
Michael Wang

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	Ingo
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-12  9:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-06  7:06 [PATCH] sched: wakeup buddy Michael Wang
2013-03-07  8:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-07  9:43   ` Mike Galbraith
2013-03-08  2:37     ` Michael Wang
2013-03-08  6:44       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-03-08  7:30         ` Michael Wang
2013-03-08  8:26           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-03-11  2:42             ` Michael Wang
2013-03-07  9:46   ` Michael Wang
2013-03-07 16:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-08  2:31       ` Michael Wang
2013-03-11  8:21   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-03-11  9:14     ` Michael Wang
2013-03-11  9:40       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-03-12  6:00         ` Michael Wang
2013-03-12  8:48           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-03-12  9:41             ` Michael Wang [this message]
2013-03-07 17:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-08  2:33   ` Michael Wang
2013-03-07 17:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-08  2:50   ` Michael Wang
2013-03-11 10:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-12  3:23       ` Michael Wang
2013-03-12 10:08         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-13  3:07           ` Michael Wang
2013-03-14 10:58             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-15  6:24               ` Michael Wang
2013-03-18  3:26                 ` Michael Wang

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