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From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, casey@schaufler-ca.com
Cc: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org, torvalds@osdl.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Smack: Simplified Mandatory Access Control Kernel
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:36:02 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <515984.88226.qm@web36611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p73zm0xslyk.fsf@bingen.suse.de>


--- Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:

> Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com> writes:
> 
> > Smack is the Simplified Mandatory Access Control Kernel.
> 
> I like the simplified part.
> 
> > +static int smk_get_access(smack_t sub, smack_t obj)
> > +{
> > +	struct smk_list_entry *sp = smack_list;
> > +
> > +	for (; sp != NULL; sp = sp->smk_next)
> > +		if (sp->smk_rule.smk_subject == sub &&
> > +		    sp->smk_rule.smk_object == obj)
> > +			return sp->smk_rule.smk_access;
> 
> Do I miss something, or is there really no locking for the reader side
> of the list? That looks dangerous. Of course a global lock for readers 
> would be likely a scaling disaster. You could use RCU.

Entries are never deleted, although they can be modified.

> Or if you assume rules are changed only very infrequently it might
> be more cache friendly to compile all the rules into a linear buffer
> and then just replace the whole buffer atomically with a RCU
> grace period on cahnges.

Individual entries can be modified without changing the whole
thing, but they shouldn't change often.

> It doesn't look like it would scale to larger numbers of rules though.
> Is that intended? Would caching of decisions fit into the design?

I put some thought into clever schemes for supporting large rule sets
well but decided to go ahead with the simplest possible mechanism
because I expect that in real deployments the number of rules will
be small. In fact, experiance says that virtually all access choices
will be covered either by the subject==object case or the subject can
read floor case. Cacheing, hashing, and 2D structures are all
possibilties that I would be happy to entertain as enhancements.

> Also in general code style would need some improvements;
> e.g. no externs in .c; no ../.. include hacks etc.
> You also seem weak on the Documentation front.

Yes, it is pretty sparse.

> Other than that it looks reasonably clean (haven't read all of it)

Thank you for your comments. I think the next version will be improved.


Casey Schaufler
casey@schaufler-ca.com

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-12  1:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-11 17:57 [PATCH] Smack: Simplified Mandatory Access Control Kernel Casey Schaufler
2007-08-11 19:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-08-11 19:56   ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-12  3:39     ` Keith Owens
2007-08-11 19:18 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-11 21:01   ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-11 21:47     ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-12  1:21       ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-12  4:32         ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-12 19:41           ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-12 23:18             ` Crispin Cowan
2007-08-13  1:38             ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-13  2:36               ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-13  2:45                 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-13  4:23               ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-16 20:58                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-17  4:56                   ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-17  9:46                     ` Miguel Ojeda
2007-08-18  5:29                     ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-19 21:12                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-08-21 13:16                         ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-21 15:50                           ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-22  3:43                             ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-22  4:08                               ` Casey Schaufler
2007-09-07 16:02                               ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-20 14:29                       ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-21  7:37                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-21 15:35                           ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-22  8:05                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-22 18:47                               ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-23  7:14                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-11 20:26 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-11 23:22   ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-12 11:16     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-12 19:50       ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-11 23:14 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-12  1:36   ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2007-08-12 11:49     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-12 17:48       ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-12 21:36         ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-12 21:46           ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-12  3:45 ` Keith Owens
2007-08-12 17:16   ` Casey Schaufler

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