From: Michael Wang <wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: wake-affine throttle
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:01:44 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <516651C8.307@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51652F43.7000300@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On 04/10/2013 05:22 PM, Michael Wang wrote:
> Hi, Peter
>
> Thanks for your reply :)
>
> On 04/10/2013 04:51 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 11:30 +0800, Michael Wang wrote:
>>> | 15 GB | 32 | 35918 | | 37632 | +4.77% | 47923 | +33.42% |
>>> 52241 | +45.45%
>>
>> So I don't get this... is wake_affine() once every milisecond _that_
>> expensive?
>>
>> Seeing we get a 45%!! improvement out of once every 100ms that would
>> mean we're like spending 1/3rd of our time in wake_affine()? that's
>> preposterous. So what's happening?
>
> Not all the regression was caused by overhead, adopt curr_cpu not
> prev_cpu for select_idle_sibling() is a more important reason for the
> regression of pgbench.
>
> In other word, for pgbench, we waste time in wake_affine() and make the
> wrong decision at most of the time, the previously patch show
> wake_affine() do pull unrelated tasks together, that's good if current
> cpu still cached hot data for wakee, but that's not the case of the
> workload like pgbench.
Please let me know if I failed to express my thought clearly.
I know it's hard to figure out why throttle could bring so many benefit,
since the wake-affine stuff is a black box with too many unmeasurable
factors, but that's actually the reason why we finally figure out this
throttle idea, not the approach like wakeup-buddy, although both of them
help to stop the regression.
It's fortunate that there is a benchmark could help to find out the
regression, and now we have a simple and efficient approach ready for
action ;-)
Regards,
Michael Wang
>
> The workload just don't satisfied the decision changed by wake-affine,
> the more wake-affine active, the more it suffered, that's why 100ms show
> better results than 1ms, but when reached some rate, the benefit and
> lost of wake-affine will be balanced.
>
> Regards,
> Michael Wang
>
>>
>>
>>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-11 6:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-10 3:30 [PATCH] sched: wake-affine throttle Michael Wang
2013-04-10 4:16 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-10 5:11 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-10 5:27 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-10 8:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-10 9:22 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-11 6:01 ` Michael Wang [this message]
2013-04-11 7:30 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-04-11 8:26 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-11 8:44 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-04-11 9:00 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-04-11 9:02 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-12 3:17 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-22 4:21 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-22 5:27 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-04-22 6:19 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-22 10:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-22 10:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-23 4:05 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-22 17:49 ` Paul Turner
2013-04-23 4:01 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-27 2:46 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-02 5:48 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-02 7:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-02 7:36 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-03 3:46 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-03 5:01 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-03 5:57 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-03 6:14 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-04 2:20 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-07 2:46 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-13 2:27 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-16 7:40 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-16 7:45 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-21 3:20 ` [PATCH v2] " Michael Wang
2013-05-21 6:47 ` Alex Shi
2013-05-21 6:52 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-22 8:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-22 9:25 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-22 14:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-23 2:12 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-28 5:02 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-28 6:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-28 7:22 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-28 8:49 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-28 8:56 ` Michael Wang
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