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From: Michael Wang <wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: wake-affine throttle
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:02:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51667C2E.1070605@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1365669862.19620.129.camel@marge.simpson.net>

On 04/11/2013 04:44 PM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-04-11 at 16:26 +0800, Michael Wang wrote:
> 
>> The 1:N is a good reason to explain why the chance that wakee's hot data
>> cached on curr_cpu is lower, and since it's just 'lower' not 'extinct',
>> after the throttle interval large enough, it will be balanced, this
>> could be proved, since during my test, when the interval become too big,
>> the improvement start to drop.
> 
> Magnitude of improvement drops just because there's less damage done
> methinks.  You'll eventually run out of measurable damage :)
> 
> Yes, it's not really extinct, you _can_ reap a gain, it's just not at
> all likely to work out.  A more symetric load will fare better, but any
> 1:N thing just has to spread far and wide to have any chance to perform.

Agree.

>> Hmm...that's an interesting point, the workload contain different
>> 'priority' works, and depend on each other, if mother starving, all the
>> kids could do nothing but wait for her, may be that's the reason why the
>> benefit is so significant, since in such case, mother's little quicker
>> respond will make all the kids happy :)
> 
> Exactly.  The entire load is server latency bound.  Keep the server on
> cpu, the load performs as best it can given unavoidable data miss cost.

Nice point :)

Regards,
Michael Wang

> 
> -Mike
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-04-11  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-10  3:30 [PATCH] sched: wake-affine throttle Michael Wang
2013-04-10  4:16 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-10  5:11   ` Michael Wang
2013-04-10  5:27     ` Alex Shi
2013-04-10  8:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-10  9:22   ` Michael Wang
2013-04-11  6:01     ` Michael Wang
2013-04-11  7:30       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-04-11  8:26         ` Michael Wang
2013-04-11  8:44           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-04-11  9:00             ` Mike Galbraith
2013-04-11  9:02             ` Michael Wang [this message]
2013-04-12  3:17   ` Michael Wang
2013-04-22  4:21 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-22  5:27   ` Mike Galbraith
2013-04-22  6:19     ` Michael Wang
2013-04-22 10:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-22 10:35   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-23  4:05     ` Michael Wang
2013-04-22 17:49   ` Paul Turner
2013-04-23  4:01   ` Michael Wang
2013-04-27  2:46   ` Michael Wang
2013-05-02  5:48   ` Michael Wang
2013-05-02  7:10     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-02  7:36       ` Michael Wang
2013-05-03  3:46 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-03  5:01   ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-03  5:57     ` Michael Wang
2013-05-03  6:14       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-04  2:20         ` Michael Wang
2013-05-07  2:46   ` Michael Wang
2013-05-13  2:27     ` Michael Wang
2013-05-16  7:40   ` Michael Wang
2013-05-16  7:45 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-21  3:20 ` [PATCH v2] " Michael Wang
2013-05-21  6:47   ` Alex Shi
2013-05-21  6:52     ` Michael Wang
2013-05-22  8:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-22  9:25     ` Michael Wang
2013-05-22 14:55       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-23  2:12         ` Michael Wang
2013-05-28  5:02         ` Michael Wang
2013-05-28  6:29           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-28  7:22             ` Michael Wang
2013-05-28  8:49               ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-28  8:56                 ` Michael Wang

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