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From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Bjørn Mork" <bjorn@mork.no>
Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [v3.10-rc1] WARNING: at kernel/rcutree.c:502
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 13:21:19 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5191ECF7.7040502@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5191EBEF.4060409@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 05/14/2013 01:16 PM, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
> On 05/14/2013 01:08 PM, Bjørn Mork wrote:
>> "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
>>> On 05/13/2013 08:09 PM, Bjørn Mork wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey, hey, hey.  Turns out this wasn't that wrong after all.  That merge
>>>> includes a oneline diff in kernel/cpu/idle.c and it *is* actually this
>>>> diff which trigger the problem for me.  Reverting it, using the attached
>>>> patch, makes the warning go away.  Which means that it had nothing to do
>>>> with your RCU changes.
>>>>
>>>> But I haven't the faintest idea how this is supposed to work, or even
>>>> how to explain the patch properly, so I think I need some help from
>>>> Thomas here.  Unless this makes you understand the real issue?
>>>>
>>>> Thomas, why does powertop trigger the
>>>>
>>>>   WARNING: at kernel/rcutree.c:502 rcu_eqs_exit_common.isra.48+0x3d/0x125()
>>>>
>>>> without the attached patch?  And what is the proper resolution?
>>>>
>>>  
>>> The problem appears to be in the cpu idle poll implementation. You can trigger
>>> this problem by passing idle=poll in the kernel cmd-line as well, right?
>>
>> That sounded so obvious that it made me think "Doh, why didn't I just
>> test that before?"  But unfortunately there must be some other factor
>> involved. No warnings observed during normal use when running with
>> idle=poll:
>>
> 
> I didn't expect warnings with normal use.
> 
>>  bjorn@nemi:~$ dmesg|grep polling
>>  [    0.000000] process: using polling idle threads
>>
>>
>> I expected a flood of warnings here, but there is none until I start
>> powertop (to confirm that the original issue is still there).  So it's
>> more than just entering cpu_idle_poll().
>>
> 
> Yeah, of course it is :-) The warning triggers only when you enable the tracepoint
> in the idle code. And in your case, powertop does that. That's why it only
> triggers when you run powertop. Alternatively, if you enable the tracepoint
> yourself manually, I bet you'll see the warnings, even without using powertop.
>  

IOW, what I wanted to confirm with you was my theory that this problem has got
nothing to do with the tick_check_broadcast_expired() check. That check only increases
the probability of entering the buggy polling code during normal use (since nobody
uses idle=poll in the kernel cmdline usually). That's why I requested you to try
running powertop by using idle=poll, to rule out the tick_check_broadcast_expired()
check from the equation.

But now that you confirmed it, everything fits perfectly! Thanks a lot!

Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat


  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-14  7:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-12  9:08 [v3.10-rc1] WARNING: at kernel/rcutree.c:502 Bjørn Mork
2013-05-12 11:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-12 15:55   ` Bjørn Mork
2013-05-12 17:21     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-12 18:19       ` Bjørn Mork
2013-05-12 20:58         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-12 23:35         ` Bjørn Mork
2013-05-13 14:39           ` Bjørn Mork
2013-05-13 22:31             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-05-14  7:38               ` Bjørn Mork
2013-05-14  7:46                 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-05-14  7:51                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]
2013-05-14  8:20                   ` Bjørn Mork
2013-05-14  8:21                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-05-14 10:24               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-14 15:50               ` [tip:core/urgent] rcu/idle: Wrap cpu-idle poll mode within rcu_idle_enter/exit tip-bot for Srivatsa S. Bhat

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