From: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] x86/xen: sync the CMOS RTC as well as the Xen wallclock
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 10:55:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51920A15.6050605@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51918ABB.5030501@linaro.org>
On 14/05/13 01:52, John Stultz wrote:
> On 05/13/2013 10:56 AM, David Vrabel wrote:
>> From: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>
>>
>> If NTP is used in dom0 and it is synchronized to its clock source,
>> then the kernel will periodically synchronize the Xen wallclock with
>> the system time. Updates to the Xen wallclock do not persist across
>> reboots, so also synchronize the CMOS RTC (as on bare metal).
>
> Sorry again, not getting this one either.
>
> So normally in this case we're using the Xen wallclock as the underlying
> source for the persistent_clock here, my understanding is we use this
> instead of the standard cmos, because we get benefits of using the
> hypervisor's sense of time instead of the bare hardware, and allows for
> virtualization of the persistent clock.
>
> But the problem is that even if Dom0 tries to set the xen persistent
> clock, it doesn't actually update anything in the underlying hardware?
> So here you instead try to sync the underlying hardware cmos from the
> same Xen dom0 environment?
Yes.
> Honestly, it seems a little strange to me. If you're running as dom0,
> why does HYPERVISOR_dom0_op() not cause the hypervisor to set the cmos
> its virtualizing? This seems to mess with the proper virtualization
> layering.
As Jan says the hypervisor only drives a minimal set of hardware,
everything else is made accessible to dom0 for it to control.
I think this makes sense as it allows us to reuse the existing RTC
drivers etc. in the Linux kernel, instead of having to reimplement them
in the hypervisor.
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-14 9:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-13 17:56 [PATCH 0/3] x86,time,xen: maintain an accurate persistent clock in more cases David Vrabel
2013-05-13 17:56 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86: increase precision of x86_platform.get/set_wallclock() David Vrabel
2013-05-14 0:57 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 17:52 ` John Stultz
2013-05-29 0:18 ` John Stultz
2013-05-29 12:16 ` David Vrabel
2013-05-13 17:56 ` [PATCH 2/3] timekeeping: sync persistent clock and RTC on system time step changes David Vrabel
2013-05-14 0:40 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 9:47 ` David Vrabel
2013-05-14 17:15 ` John Stultz
2013-05-15 8:16 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-05-15 18:10 ` John Stultz
2013-05-28 18:26 ` David Vrabel
2013-05-28 18:31 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-28 19:09 ` John Stultz
2013-05-28 19:48 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-28 20:03 ` John Stultz
2013-05-28 20:11 ` John Stultz
2013-05-28 20:25 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-28 20:30 ` John Stultz
2013-05-28 19:06 ` John Stultz
2013-05-13 17:56 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/xen: sync the CMOS RTC as well as the Xen wallclock David Vrabel
2013-05-14 0:52 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 7:57 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-05-14 15:59 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 16:14 ` Jan Beulich
2013-05-14 16:17 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 16:24 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-14 16:28 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 9:55 ` David Vrabel [this message]
2013-05-14 17:24 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 18:00 ` David Vrabel
2013-05-14 18:03 ` John Stultz
2013-05-15 8:19 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-05-15 18:13 ` John Stultz
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