Weird disk idling

Weird disk idling

[Fredrik Tolf]

Dear list,

In order to debug I/O performance, I recently wrote a tiny program for 
inspecting /sys/block/$DISK/stat. It works by dumping deltas of the values 
every 100 ms, quite simply (except the queue-length value, for which 
deltas are clearly useless).

Using this, I often see periods during constant I/O loads where there are 
lots of requests in the queue, but the disk is completely idle. They 
usually last somewhere from 0.1 to 2 seconds. Using the aforementioned 
program, they might look, for instance, like this:

1369545418.8       0        0        0        0        2        0       16     4888      134      100    13400
1369545418.9       0        0        0        0        0        0        0        0      134      100    13400
1369545419.0       0        0        0        0        0        0        0        0      135      104    13984
1369545419.1       0        0        0        0        0        0        0        0      135      100    13500
1369545419.2       0        0        0        0        0        0        0        0      135      100    13500
1369545419.3       0        0        0        0        0        0        0        0      135      100    13500
1369545419.4       0        0        0        0        0        0        0        0      135      100    13500
1369545419.5       0        0        0        0        0        0        0        0      135      100    13500
1369545419.6       0        0        0        0        0        0        0        0      135      104    14040
1369545419.7       2        0       64      672       58        0     1185   152512       78      100    11296

I'm sure you all know what the various fields are (except the first, which 
is just a timestamp), so as you can see, there are 135 requests in the 
queue, but no reads or writes happen, in this case, for at least 800 ms.

Is this behavior normal and expected, or is there something wrong here? In 
the latter case, is it my hardware that is failing somehow, or can there 
be some software weirdness that can be tweaked away or bugfixed?

The disk in question is a 640 GB WDC Caviar Green, and it's attached via 
an old Silicon Image 3114 PCI card. Clearly, the hardware is less than 
optimal, but can that explain this behavior? (For the record, the disk 
does at least not report any SMART errors, and there are no errors about 
in the dmesg.)

The kernel version is 3.7.1, and the scheduler is CFQ.

Thanks for reading!

--

Fredrik Tolf

Re: Weird disk idling

[ethan]

Fred，
      How do you know the disk is completely idle ? How much cache memory do your controller and disk have ?  Why do you think the requests should trigger action of disk immediately while you don't know what kind of requests are they. They are reading the same offset of the same block ?

  ... ....

    Before got the answer, you should ask yourself many questions.


Ethan 

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在 2013-5-26，13:29，Fredrik Tolf <fredrik@dolda2000.com> 写道：

> Dear list,
> 
> In order to debug I/O performance, I recently wrote a tiny program for inspecting /sys/block/$DISK/stat. It works by dumping deltas of the values every 100 ms, quite simply (except the queue-length value, for which deltas are clearly useless).
> 
> Using this, I often see periods during constant I/O loads where there are lots of requests in the queue, but the disk is completely idle. They usually last somewhere from 0.1 to 2 seconds. Using the aforementioned program, they might look, for instance, like this:
> 
> 1369545418.8       0        0        0        0        2        0       16     4888      134      100    13400
> 1369545418.9       0        0        0        0        0        0        0        0      134      100    13400
> 1369545419.0       0        0        0        0        0        0        0        0      135      104    13984
> 1369545419.1       0        0        0        0        0        0        0        0      135      100    13500
> 1369545419.2       0        0        0        0        0        0        0        0      135      100    13500
> 1369545419.3       0        0        0        0        0        0        0        0      135      100    13500
> 1369545419.4       0        0        0        0        0        0        0        0      135      100    13500
> 1369545419.5       0        0        0        0        0        0        0        0      135      100    13500
> 1369545419.6       0        0        0        0        0        0        0        0      135      104    14040
> 1369545419.7       2        0       64      672       58        0     1185   152512       78      100    11296
> 
> I'm sure you all know what the various fields are (except the first, which is just a timestamp), so as you can see, there are 135 requests in the queue, but no reads or writes happen, in this case, for at least 800 ms.
> 
> Is this behavior normal and expected, or is there something wrong here? In the latter case, is it my hardware that is failing somehow, or can there be some software weirdness that can be tweaked away or bugfixed?
> 
> The disk in question is a 640 GB WDC Caviar Green, and it's attached via an old Silicon Image 3114 PCI card. Clearly, the hardware is less than optimal, but can that explain this behavior? (For the record, the disk does at least not report any SMART errors, and there are no errors about in the dmesg.)
> 
> The kernel version is 3.7.1, and the scheduler is CFQ.
> 
> Thanks for reading!
> 
> --
> 
> Fredrik Tolf
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Re: Weird disk idling

[Alexander Holler]

Am 26.05.2013 07:29, schrieb Fredrik Tolf:

> I'm sure you all know what the various fields are (except the first,

Hmm, I had to look at Documentation/block/stat.txt.

> which is just a timestamp), so as you can see, there are 135 requests in
> the queue, but no reads or writes happen, in this case, for at least 800
> ms.
> 
> Is this behavior normal and expected, or is there something wrong here?
> In the latter case, is it my hardware that is failing somehow, or can
> there be some software weirdness that can be tweaked away or bugfixed?

I would say thats how caches do work. You might have a look at

sysctl vm

which shows a lot of the knobs you can turn to change some of the
aspects you see.

Regards,

Alexander Holler

Re: Weird disk idling

[Valdis.Kletnieks]

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On Sun, 26 May 2013 16:58:59 +0800, ethan said:
> Fred£¬
>       How do you know the disk is completely idle ?

Actually, my first question was "How do you know the disk is *spinning*?"
A second or two delay sounds suspiciously like a spun-down disk in powersave
move....

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