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From: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: gleb@redhat.com, avi.kivity@gmail.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 10/11] KVM: MMU: collapse TLB flushes when zap all pages
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 23:19:09 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51A4CAED.7060608@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130528003611.GA1958@amt.cnet>

On 05/28/2013 08:36 AM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 03:55:59AM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
>> kvm_zap_obsolete_pages uses lock-break technique to zap pages,
>> it will flush tlb every time when it does lock-break
>>
>> We can reload mmu on all vcpus after updating the generation
>> number so that the obsolete pages are not used on any vcpus,
>> after that we do not need to flush tlb when obsolete pages
>> are zapped
> 
> After that point batching is also not relevant anymore?

no... without batching, we do not know how much time we will
spend to zap pages. It is not good for the case that
zap_all_pages is called in the vcpu context.

> 
> 
> Still concerned about a similar case mentioned earlier:
> 
> "
> Note the account for pages freed step after pages are actually
> freed: as discussed with Takuya, having pages freed and freed page
> accounting out of sync across mmu_lock is potentially problematic:
> kvm->arch.n_used_mmu_pages and friends do not reflect reality which can
> cause problems for SLAB freeing and page allocation throttling.
> "
> 
> This is a real problem, if you decrease n_used_mmu_pages at
> kvm_mmu_prepare_zap_page, but only actually free pages later 
> at kvm_mmu_commit_zap_page, there is the possibility of allowing
> a huge number to be retained. There should be a maximum number of pages
> at invalid_list.
> 
> (even higher possibility if you schedule without freeing pages reported
> as released!).
> 
>> Note: kvm_mmu_commit_zap_page is still needed before free
>> the pages since other vcpus may be doing locklessly shadow
>> page walking

Ah, yes, i agree with you.

We can introduce a list, say kvm->arch.obsolte_pages, to link all of the
zapped-page, the page-shrink will free the page on that list first.

Marcelo, if you do not have objection on  patch 1 ~ 8 and 11, could you please
let them merged first, and do add some comments and tlb optimization later?



  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-28 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-22 19:55 [PATCH v7 00/11] KVM: MMU: fast zap all shadow pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 01/11] KVM: x86: drop calling kvm_mmu_zap_all in emulator_fix_hypercall Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 02/11] KVM: MMU: drop unnecessary kvm_reload_remote_mmus Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 03/11] KVM: MMU: fast invalidate all pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-24 20:23   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-26  8:26     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-26 20:37       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-27 22:59         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-27  2:02     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 04/11] KVM: MMU: zap pages in batch Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-24 20:34   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-27  2:20     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-28  0:18       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-28 15:02         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 11:11           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 13:09             ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 13:21               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 14:00                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 13:32               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 14:02                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 16:03                   ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 05/11] KVM: x86: use the fast way to invalidate all pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 06/11] KVM: MMU: show mmu_valid_gen in shadow page related tracepoints Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 07/11] KVM: MMU: add tracepoint for kvm_mmu_invalidate_all_pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 08/11] KVM: MMU: do not reuse the obsolete page Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 09/11] KVM: MMU: introduce kvm_mmu_prepare_zap_obsolete_page Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  5:57   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23  6:13     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  6:18       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23  6:31         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  7:37           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23  7:50             ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  8:09               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23  8:33                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 11:13                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 12:39                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23 13:03                     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 15:57                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-24  5:39                         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-24  5:53                           ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-28  0:13   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-28 14:51     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 12:25       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 13:43         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 10/11] KVM: MMU: collapse TLB flushes when zap all pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  6:12   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23  6:26     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  7:24       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23  7:37         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  7:38           ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  7:56             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-28  0:36   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-28 15:19     ` Xiao Guangrong [this message]
2013-05-29  3:03       ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 12:39         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 13:19           ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-30  0:53             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-30 16:24               ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-05-30 17:10                 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-05-22 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 11/11] KVM: MMU: reduce KVM_REQ_MMU_RELOAD when root page is zapped Xiao Guangrong

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