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From: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	gleb@redhat.com, avi.kivity@gmail.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 10/11] KVM: MMU: collapse TLB flushes when zap all pages
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 11:03:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51A56FF7.2000907@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51A4CAED.7060608@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 05/28/2013 11:19 PM, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
> On 05/28/2013 08:36 AM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 03:55:59AM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
>>> kvm_zap_obsolete_pages uses lock-break technique to zap pages,
>>> it will flush tlb every time when it does lock-break
>>>
>>> We can reload mmu on all vcpus after updating the generation
>>> number so that the obsolete pages are not used on any vcpus,
>>> after that we do not need to flush tlb when obsolete pages
>>> are zapped
>>
>> After that point batching is also not relevant anymore?
> 
> no... without batching, we do not know how much time we will
> spend to zap pages. It is not good for the case that
> zap_all_pages is called in the vcpu context.
> 
>>
>>
>> Still concerned about a similar case mentioned earlier:
>>
>> "
>> Note the account for pages freed step after pages are actually
>> freed: as discussed with Takuya, having pages freed and freed page
>> accounting out of sync across mmu_lock is potentially problematic:
>> kvm->arch.n_used_mmu_pages and friends do not reflect reality which can
>> cause problems for SLAB freeing and page allocation throttling.
>> "
>>
>> This is a real problem, if you decrease n_used_mmu_pages at
>> kvm_mmu_prepare_zap_page, but only actually free pages later 
>> at kvm_mmu_commit_zap_page, there is the possibility of allowing
>> a huge number to be retained. There should be a maximum number of pages
>> at invalid_list.
>>
>> (even higher possibility if you schedule without freeing pages reported
>> as released!).
>>
>>> Note: kvm_mmu_commit_zap_page is still needed before free
>>> the pages since other vcpus may be doing locklessly shadow
>>> page walking
> 
> Ah, yes, i agree with you.
> 
> We can introduce a list, say kvm->arch.obsolte_pages, to link all of the
> zapped-page, the page-shrink will free the page on that list first.
> 
> Marcelo, if you do not have objection on  patch 1 ~ 8 and 11, could you please
> let them merged first, and do add some comments and tlb optimization later?

Exclude patch 11 please, since it depends on the "collapse" optimization.



  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-29  3:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-22 19:55 [PATCH v7 00/11] KVM: MMU: fast zap all shadow pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 01/11] KVM: x86: drop calling kvm_mmu_zap_all in emulator_fix_hypercall Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 02/11] KVM: MMU: drop unnecessary kvm_reload_remote_mmus Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 03/11] KVM: MMU: fast invalidate all pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-24 20:23   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-26  8:26     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-26 20:37       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-27 22:59         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-27  2:02     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 04/11] KVM: MMU: zap pages in batch Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-24 20:34   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-27  2:20     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-28  0:18       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-28 15:02         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 11:11           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 13:09             ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 13:21               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 14:00                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 13:32               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 14:02                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 16:03                   ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 05/11] KVM: x86: use the fast way to invalidate all pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 06/11] KVM: MMU: show mmu_valid_gen in shadow page related tracepoints Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 07/11] KVM: MMU: add tracepoint for kvm_mmu_invalidate_all_pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 08/11] KVM: MMU: do not reuse the obsolete page Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 09/11] KVM: MMU: introduce kvm_mmu_prepare_zap_obsolete_page Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  5:57   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23  6:13     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  6:18       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23  6:31         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  7:37           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23  7:50             ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  8:09               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23  8:33                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 11:13                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 12:39                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23 13:03                     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 15:57                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-24  5:39                         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-24  5:53                           ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-28  0:13   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-28 14:51     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 12:25       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 13:43         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 10/11] KVM: MMU: collapse TLB flushes when zap all pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  6:12   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23  6:26     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  7:24       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23  7:37         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  7:38           ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  7:56             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-28  0:36   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-28 15:19     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29  3:03       ` Xiao Guangrong [this message]
2013-05-29 12:39         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 13:19           ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-30  0:53             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-30 16:24               ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-05-30 17:10                 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-05-22 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 11/11] KVM: MMU: reduce KVM_REQ_MMU_RELOAD when root page is zapped Xiao Guangrong

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