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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: "Henrik Nordström" <henrik@henriknordstrom.net>
Cc: Linux on small ARM machines <arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk>,
	devicetree-discuss <devicetree-discuss@ozlabs.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	debian-arm@lists.debian.org,
	"jonsmirl@gmail.com" <jonsmirl@gmail.com>,
	ARM Linux Mailing List <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	debian-kernel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 16:54:23 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51AFC19F.9040601@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1370469574.18839.33.camel@localhost>

On 06/05/2013 03:59 PM, Henrik Nordström wrote:
> ons 2013-06-05 klockan 22:24 +0100 skrev Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton:
...
>>  so the point is: if anyone wishes me to propose to allwinner that
>> they convert over to devicetree, or any other proposal which involves
>> significant low-level changes to their working practices that could
>> potentially have a massive knock-on effect onto their
>> multi-million-dollar clients, it had better be a damn good story.
> 
> Calm down. It isn't really a significant difference to them outside of
> the kernel. They do not need to change any of their configuraiton
> methods, only a small toolchain change in how the resultig images are
> built to have a corresponding device tree built.

If U-Boot needs to be parametrized, there are in theory a few options open:

1) Put all the parameters in the U-Boot configuration header. This is
normal.

2) Read some data structure at run-time. This data structure could in
theory be some SoC-specific blob format (e.g. the packed version of
information that some tool extracts from FEX/DT), a whole FEX blob, or
device tree. The U-Boot maintainers have already indicated that they
won't accept the first two options; run-time configuration has to be via
DT, and not via some SoC-specific mechanism. (As I found out to my
detriment when I attempted to make U-Boot on Tegra determine which UART
to use for debug at run-time by reading the configuration header that
our boot ROM uses). Now of course, boot0/boot1 could always transform
whatever data structure they wish into a DTB before passing that to
U-Boot...

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-05 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-05 19:46 getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1)) Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2013-06-05 20:48 ` jonsmirl
2013-06-05 22:11   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-06-05 22:56     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2013-06-06  0:35       ` Greg KH
2013-06-06  9:29   ` Thomas Petazzoni
     [not found] ` <CAKON4OxDD5orX2w-_+d5kawTGXbE3KKj2QLERo9m7=NiUSXhgQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-06-05 21:00   ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-05 21:16     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-05 22:07       ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2013-06-06  8:16         ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2013-06-05 22:22       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-06-05 21:24     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2013-06-05 21:38       ` Lennart Sorensen
2013-06-05 22:10         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-05 21:59       ` [Arm-netbook] " Henrik Nordström
2013-06-05 22:47         ` luke.leighton
2013-06-05 23:07           ` jonsmirl
2013-06-05 23:26             ` luke.leighton
2013-06-05 23:28               ` jonsmirl
2013-06-05 23:40               ` Henrik Nordström
2013-06-05 23:54                 ` luke.leighton
2013-06-06  0:01                   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-06-06  9:27                     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-06-06 10:02                       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-06-07 18:26                       ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 18:59                         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-06-07 19:14                           ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 21:29                           ` luke.leighton
2013-06-08  8:28                             ` Tomasz Figa
2013-06-08  9:08                               ` luke.leighton
2013-06-09 22:09                                 ` luke.leighton
2013-06-09 22:31                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-09 23:30                                     ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 22:08                         ` Maxime Ripard
2013-06-07 23:07                           ` luke.leighton
     [not found]                             ` <CAF1ZMEets=ea+zpUTUn9Xr-+C+JaKxajK45vK+_mnDJJeoYQpA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-06-07 23:17                               ` luke.leighton
2013-06-06  9:49                     ` Mark Brown
2013-06-06 12:24                     ` luke.leighton
2013-06-06 12:43                       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-06-06 12:49                         ` luke.leighton
2013-06-06 13:02                           ` Tomasz Figa
2013-06-07  7:52                             ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07  8:40                               ` Vladimir Pantelic
2013-06-07  9:08                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-07  8:57                               ` Tomasz Figa
2013-06-07 10:32                                 ` Bjørn Mork
2013-06-07 19:02                                 ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 19:16                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-06-07 19:30                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-07 21:34                                     ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 14:30                               ` Lennart Sorensen
2013-06-06 13:10                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-07  8:02                         ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07  8:49                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-07 10:26                           ` Henrik Nordström
2013-06-07 17:30                           ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-06 14:02                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-06-06 15:05                         ` Olof Johansson
2013-06-06  0:19                   ` Henrik Nordström
2013-06-06 12:22                     ` luke.leighton
2013-06-06 12:51                       ` Vladimir Pantelic
2013-06-07  7:40                         ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07  7:48                           ` Vladimir Pantelic
2013-06-07  8:06                             ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07  8:18                               ` Alexandre Belloni
2013-06-07 18:15                                 ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 14:49                               ` joem
2013-06-07 18:26                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-07 19:18                                   ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2013-06-07 19:31                                     ` Ben Hutchings
2013-06-07 19:35                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-07 21:41                                       ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2013-06-07 20:00                                   ` joem
2013-06-07  9:14                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-06 13:15                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-06 18:51                       ` Henrik Nordström
2013-06-06 15:13                   ` jonsmirl
2013-06-06 16:00                     ` Olof Johansson
2013-06-06 17:28                       ` Maxime Ripard
2013-06-06 18:55                         ` Lennart Sorensen
2013-06-06 20:22                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-07 18:56                           ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 18:50                         ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 18:57                         ` Wookey
2013-06-07 19:08                           ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 21:13                             ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07  9:17                       ` Barry Song
2013-06-07 18:45                       ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 18:54                         ` Olof Johansson
2013-06-07 19:04                           ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 19:31                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-05 23:40               ` jonsmirl
2013-06-05 23:52                 ` luke.leighton
2013-06-06  0:15                   ` Henrik Nordström
2013-06-06 12:19                     ` luke.leighton
2013-06-06 18:44                       ` Henrik Nordström
2013-06-05 22:54         ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2013-06-05 23:15           ` Henrik Nordström
2013-06-05 21:15   ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2013-06-05 21:47     ` [Arm-netbook] " Henrik Nordström
2013-06-05 22:20       ` luke.leighton
2013-06-06  0:23         ` Henrik Nordström
2013-06-05 21:52     ` Tomasz Figa
2013-06-05 22:38       ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2013-06-05 23:27         ` Tomasz Figa
2013-06-05 23:46           ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2013-06-06 15:30         ` Lennart Sorensen
2013-06-05 22:30 ` Bastian Blank

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