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From: Kirill Tkhai <tkhai@yandex.ru>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] spin_unlock*_no_resched()
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 04:07:33 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51B90D45.8050505@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1371042443.9844.255.camel@gandalf.local.home>

On 12/06/13 17:07, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-06-12 at 14:15 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
>> So I absolutely hate this API because people can (and invariably will)
>> abuse it; much like they did/do preempt_enable_no_resched().
>
> Me too.
>
>>
>> IIRC Thomas even maps preempt_enable_no_resched() to preempt_enable() in
>> -rt to make sure we don't miss preemption points due to stupidity.
>>
>> He converted the 'few' sane sites to use schedule_preempt_disabled(). In
>> that vein, does it make sense to introduce schedule_spin_locked()?
>>
>
> I was thinking the exact same thing when I read this patch. This is a
> strict policy that we should enforce and not let individual developers
> implement. Yes, a schedule_spin_unlock() would work nicely. The API will
> enforce the two to be used together. Otherwise, I can envision seeing
> things like:
>
> 	preempt_disable();
> 	[...]
>
> 	spin_lock(x);
>
> 	spin_unlock_no_resched(x);
>
> 	[...]
>
> 	preempt_enable();
>
> And developers having no idea why the above is broken. Although, I would
> say the above is broken for other reasons, but I was just using that to
> show the craziness such an API would give to us.
>
> -- Steve
>
>
>

In additional to my previous letter. If spin_lock is locked then irqs
must be disabled. So sorry for the noise.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-13  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-12 12:06 [PATCH] spin_unlock*_no_resched() Kirill Tkhai
2013-06-12 12:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-06-12 13:07   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-12 23:06     ` Kirill Tkhai
2013-06-13  0:07     ` Kirill Tkhai [this message]
2013-06-18 10:05 ` Peter Zijlstra

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