From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
David Lang <david@lang.hm>,
"len.brown@intel.com" <len.brown@intel.com>,
"alex.shi@intel.com" <alex.shi@intel.com>,
"corbet@lwn.net" <corbet@lwn.net>,
"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"efault@gmx.de" <efault@gmx.de>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org" <linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org>,
"preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"pjt@google.com" <pjt@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: power-efficient scheduling design
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 14:34:00 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51C4C6C8.1050008@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHkRjk5G7XJxzjcWa4BqRxz0AtAAh_-Eomzk4+dQRaFk1=HQqA@mail.gmail.com>
On 6/21/2013 2:23 PM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>>
>> oops sorry I misread your mail (lack of early coffee I suppose)
>>
>> I can see your point of having a thing for "did we ask for all the performance
>> we could ask for" prior to doing a load balance (although, for power efficiency,
>> if you have two tasks that could run in parallel, it's usually better to
>> run them in parallel... so likely we should balance anyway)
>
> Not necessarily, especially if parallel running implies powering up a
> full cluster just for one CPU (it depends on the hardware but for
> example a cluster may not be able to go in deeper sleep states unless
> all the CPUs in that cluster are idle).
I guess it depends on the system
the very first cpu needs to power on
* the core itself
* the "cluster" that you mention
* the memory controller
* the memory (out of self refresh)
while the second cpu needs
* the core itself
* maybe a second cluster
normally on Intel systems, the memory power delta is quite significant
which then means the efficiency of the second core is huge compared to
running things in sequence.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-21 21:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-30 13:47 [RFC] Comparison of power-efficient scheduling patch sets Morten Rasmussen
2013-05-31 1:17 ` Alex Shi
2013-05-31 8:23 ` Alex Shi
2013-05-31 10:52 ` power-efficient scheduling design Ingo Molnar
2013-06-03 14:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-06-03 15:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-04 15:03 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-06-07 6:26 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-06-20 15:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-05 9:56 ` Amit Kucheria
2013-06-07 6:03 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-06-07 14:51 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-06-07 18:08 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-06-07 17:36 ` David Lang
2013-06-09 4:33 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-06-08 11:28 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-06-08 14:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-06-09 3:42 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-06-09 22:53 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-06-10 16:25 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-06-12 0:27 ` David Lang
2013-06-12 1:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-06-12 9:48 ` Amit Kucheria
2013-06-12 16:22 ` David Lang
2013-06-12 10:20 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-06-12 15:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-06-12 17:04 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-06-12 9:50 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-06-12 16:30 ` David Lang
2013-06-11 0:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-06-13 4:32 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-06-09 4:23 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-06-07 15:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-06-14 16:05 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-06-17 11:23 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-06-18 1:37 ` David Lang
2013-06-18 10:23 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-06-18 17:39 ` David Lang
2013-06-19 12:39 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-06-18 15:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-06-18 17:47 ` David Lang
2013-06-18 19:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-06-19 15:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-06-19 17:00 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-06-19 17:08 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-06-21 8:50 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-06-21 15:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-06-21 15:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-06-21 21:23 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-06-21 21:34 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2013-06-23 23:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-24 10:07 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-06-24 15:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-06-24 21:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-24 23:10 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-06-18 19:06 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-06-21 15:06 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-06-23 10:55 ` Ingo Molnar
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