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From: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
To: Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
	"ak@linux.intel.com" <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
	tglx <tglx@linutronix.de>, John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] perf: need to expose sched_clock to correlate user samples with kernel samples
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:49:41 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51CB1BA5.9010307@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1359728280.8360.15.camel@hornet>

With all the perf ioctl extensions tossed out the past day or so I 
wanted to revive this request. Still need a solution to the problem of 
correlating perf_clock to other clocks ...

On 2/1/13 7:18 AM, Pawel Moll wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to revive the topic...
>
> On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 18:23 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 12:13 +0200, Stephane Eranian wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> There are many situations where we want to correlate events happening at
>>> the user level with samples recorded in the perf_event kernel sampling buffer.
>>> For instance, we might want to correlate the call to a function or creation of
>>> a file with samples. Similarly, when we want to monitor a JVM with jitted code,
>>> we need to be able to correlate jitted code mappings with perf event samples
>>> for symbolization.
>>>
>>> Perf_events allows timestamping of samples with PERF_SAMPLE_TIME.
>>> That causes each PERF_RECORD_SAMPLE to include a timestamp
>>> generated by calling the local_clock() -> sched_clock_cpu() function.
>>>
>>> To make correlating user vs. kernel samples easy, we would need to
>>> access that sched_clock() functionality. However, none of the existing
>>> clock calls permit this at this point. They all return timestamps which are
>>> not using the same source and/or offset as sched_clock.
>>>
>>> I believe a similar issue exists with the ftrace subsystem.
>>>
>>> The problem needs to be adressed in a portable manner. Solutions
>>> based on reading TSC for the user level to reconstruct sched_clock()
>>> don't seem appropriate to me.
>>>
>>> One possibility to address this limitation would be to extend clock_gettime()
>>> with a new clock time, e.g., CLOCK_PERF.
>>>
>>> However, I understand that sched_clock_cpu() provides ordering guarantees only
>>> when invoked on the same CPU repeatedly, i.e., it's not globally synchronized.
>>> But we already have to deal with this problem when merging samples obtained
>>> from different CPU sampling buffer in per-thread mode. So this is not
>>> necessarily
>>> a showstopper.
>>>
>>> Alternatives could be to use uprobes but that's less practical to setup.
>>>
>>> Anyone with better ideas?
>>
>> You forgot to CC the time people ;-)
>>
>> I've no problem with adding CLOCK_PERF (or another/better name).
>>
>> Thomas, John?
>
> I've just faced the same issue - correlating an event in userspace with
> data from the perf stream, but to my mind what I want to get is a value
> returned by perf_clock() _in the current "session" context_.
>
> Stephane didn't like the idea of opening a "fake" perf descriptor in
> order to get the timestamp, but surely one must have the "session"
> already running to be interested in such data in the first place? So I
> think the ioctl() idea is not out of place here... How about the simple
> change below?
>
> Regards
>
> Pawel
>
> 8<---
>  From 2ad51a27fbf64bf98cee190efc3fbd7002819692 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>
> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:03:56 +0000
> Subject: [PATCH] perf: Add ioctl to return current time value
>
> To co-relate user space events with the perf events stream
> a current (as in: "what time(stamp) is it now?") time value
> must be made available.
>
> This patch adds a perf ioctl that makes this possible.
>
> Signed-off-by: Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>
> ---
>   include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h |    1 +
>   kernel/events/core.c            |    8 ++++++++
>   2 files changed, 9 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h b/include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h
> index 4f63c05..b745fb0 100644
> --- a/include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h
> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h
> @@ -316,6 +316,7 @@ struct perf_event_attr {
>   #define PERF_EVENT_IOC_PERIOD		_IOW('$', 4, __u64)
>   #define PERF_EVENT_IOC_SET_OUTPUT	_IO ('$', 5)
>   #define PERF_EVENT_IOC_SET_FILTER	_IOW('$', 6, char *)
> +#define PERF_EVENT_IOC_GET_TIME		_IOR('$', 7, __u64)
>
>   enum perf_event_ioc_flags {
>   	PERF_IOC_FLAG_GROUP		= 1U << 0,
> diff --git a/kernel/events/core.c b/kernel/events/core.c
> index 301079d..4202b1c 100644
> --- a/kernel/events/core.c
> +++ b/kernel/events/core.c
> @@ -3298,6 +3298,14 @@ static long perf_ioctl(struct file *file, unsigned int cmd, unsigned long arg)
>   	case PERF_EVENT_IOC_SET_FILTER:
>   		return perf_event_set_filter(event, (void __user *)arg);
>
> +	case PERF_EVENT_IOC_GET_TIME:
> +	{
> +		u64 time = perf_clock();
> +		if (copy_to_user((void __user *)arg, &time, sizeof(time)))
> +			return -EFAULT;
> +		return 0;
> +	}
> +
>   	default:
>   		return -ENOTTY;
>   	}
>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-26 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-16 10:13 [RFC] perf: need to expose sched_clock to correlate user samples with kernel samples Stephane Eranian
2012-10-16 17:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-18 19:33   ` Stephane Eranian
2012-11-10  2:04   ` John Stultz
2012-11-11 20:32     ` Stephane Eranian
2012-11-12 18:53       ` John Stultz
2012-11-12 20:54         ` Stephane Eranian
2012-11-12 22:39           ` John Stultz
2012-11-13 20:58     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-14 22:26       ` John Stultz
2012-11-14 23:30         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-01 14:18   ` Pawel Moll
2013-02-05 21:18     ` David Ahern
2013-02-05 22:13     ` Stephane Eranian
2013-02-05 22:28       ` John Stultz
2013-02-06  1:19         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-06 18:17           ` Pawel Moll
2013-02-13 20:00             ` Stephane Eranian
2013-02-14 10:33               ` Pawel Moll
2013-02-18 15:16                 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-02-18 18:59                   ` David Ahern
2013-02-18 20:35         ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-02-19 18:25           ` John Stultz
2013-02-19 19:55             ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-02-19 20:15               ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-02-19 20:35                 ` John Stultz
2013-02-19 21:50                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-02-19 22:20                     ` John Stultz
2013-02-20 10:06                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-02-20 10:29             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-23  6:04               ` John Stultz
2013-02-25 14:10                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-14 15:34                   ` Stephane Eranian
2013-03-14 19:57                     ` Pawel Moll
2013-03-31 16:23                       ` David Ahern
2013-04-01 18:29                         ` John Stultz
2013-04-01 22:29                           ` David Ahern
2013-04-01 23:12                             ` John Stultz
2013-04-03  9:17                             ` Stephane Eranian
2013-04-03 13:55                               ` David Ahern
2013-04-03 14:00                                 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-04-03 14:14                                   ` David Ahern
2013-04-03 14:22                                     ` Stephane Eranian
2013-04-03 17:57                                       ` John Stultz
2013-04-04  8:12                                         ` Stephane Eranian
2013-04-04 22:26                                           ` John Stultz
2013-04-02  7:54                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-02 16:05                             ` Pawel Moll
2013-04-02 16:19                             ` John Stultz
2013-04-02 16:34                               ` Pawel Moll
2013-04-03 17:19                               ` Pawel Moll
2013-04-03 17:29                                 ` John Stultz
2013-04-03 17:35                                   ` Pawel Moll
2013-04-03 17:50                                     ` John Stultz
2013-04-04  7:37                                       ` Richard Cochran
2013-04-04 16:33                                         ` Pawel Moll
2013-04-04 16:29                                       ` Pawel Moll
2013-04-05 18:16                                         ` Pawel Moll
2013-04-06 11:05                                           ` Richard Cochran
2013-04-08 17:58                                             ` Pawel Moll
2013-04-08 19:05                                               ` John Stultz
2013-04-09  5:02                                                 ` Richard Cochran
2013-02-06 18:17       ` Pawel Moll
2013-06-26 16:49     ` David Ahern [this message]
2013-07-15 10:44       ` Pawel Moll

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