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From: Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Patch v5 0/9] liblockdep: userspace lockdep
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 09:55:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51CC4461.50207@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130627090722.GC4398@gmail.com>

On 06/27/2013 05:07 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>> On 06/26/2013 11:53 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>>> Ingo, I don't think I see anything holding this back; however I remember
>>>>> reading some email about people not liking stuff like this living in the
>>>>> tools/ directory or such.
>>>>>
>>>>> Will you pick this up?
>>> So I'd really be interested in how interesting/useful this is to userspace
>>> developers? Does it work for something complex as Firefox, or Apache, to
>>> the extent they make use of these locking APIs?
>>
>> So far I've tested it on Firefox, Apache, QEMU, LKVM, GCC and random
>> smallish programs. I haven't really done full testing for each of those,
>> but just made sure that liblockdep behaves as it supposed to. I'm
>> guessing that with further work it will dig up actual issues.
>
> The other issue is that with lock classes disabled you have to hit an
> actual deadlock to trigger any output.
>
> I.e. much of the power of lockdep is diminished :-/ When actual deadlocks
> are triggered then it's not particularly complex to debug user-space apps:
> gdb the hung task(s) and look at the backtraces.

Lock classes are disabled only if you're using the LD_PRELOAD method of
testing. If you actually re-compile your code with the library (by just
including the header and setting a #define to enable it) you will have
lock classes.


Thanks,
Sasha



  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-27 13:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-13 22:41 [Patch v5 0/9] liblockdep: userspace lockdep Sasha Levin
2013-06-13 22:41 ` [Patch v5 1/9] lockdep: Be nice about building from userspace Sasha Levin
2013-06-13 22:41 ` [Patch v5 2/9] liblockdep: Wrap kernel/lockdep.c to allow usage " Sasha Levin
2013-11-27 14:08   ` [tip:core/locking] liblockdep: Wrap kernel/locking/ lockdep.c " tip-bot for Sasha Levin
2013-06-13 22:41 ` [Patch v5 3/9] liblockdep: Add public headers for pthread_mutex_t implementation Sasha Levin
2013-11-27 14:08   ` [tip:core/locking] " tip-bot for Sasha Levin
2013-06-13 22:41 ` [Patch v5 4/9] liblockdep: Add pthread_mutex_t test suite Sasha Levin
2013-11-27 14:08   ` [tip:core/locking] " tip-bot for Sasha Levin
2013-06-13 22:41 ` [Patch v5 5/9] liblockdep: Add public headers for pthread_rwlock_t implementation Sasha Levin
2013-11-27 14:09   ` [tip:core/locking] " tip-bot for Sasha Levin
2013-06-13 22:41 ` [Patch v5 6/9] liblockdep: Add pthread_rwlock_t test suite Sasha Levin
2013-11-27 14:09   ` [tip:core/locking] " tip-bot for Sasha Levin
2013-06-13 22:41 ` [Patch v5 7/9] liblockdep: Support using LD_PRELOAD Sasha Levin
2013-11-27 14:09   ` [tip:core/locking] " tip-bot for Sasha Levin
2013-06-13 22:41 ` [Patch v5 8/9] liblockdep: Add the 'lockdep' user-space utility Sasha Levin
2013-11-27 14:09   ` [tip:core/locking] " tip-bot for Sasha Levin
2013-06-13 22:41 ` [Patch v5 9/9] liblockdep: Add a MAINTAINERS entry Sasha Levin
2013-11-27 14:09   ` [tip:core/locking] " tip-bot for Sasha Levin
2013-06-26 12:24 ` [Patch v5 0/9] liblockdep: userspace lockdep Peter Zijlstra
2013-06-26 15:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-26 19:38     ` Sasha Levin
2013-06-27  9:05       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-27  9:07       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-27 13:55         ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2013-07-08  1:14           ` Sasha Levin
2013-07-08  8:39             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-12 17:40               ` Sasha Levin
2013-09-12 18:01                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-14 16:59                   ` Sasha Levin
2013-11-08 17:04                   ` Sasha Levin
2013-11-09 16:01                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-11 15:56                     ` Peter Zijlstra

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