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From: Michael Wang <wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: smart wake-affine
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 10:47:55 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51D633DB.5010508@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1372934013.9046.16.camel@marge.simpson.net>

On 07/04/2013 06:33 PM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
[snip]
>> Well, seems like we still have many follow-up research works after fix
>> the issue ;-)
> 
> Yeah.  Like how to how to exterminate the plus sign, they munch cache
> lines, and have a general tendency to negatively impact benchmarks.
> 
> Q6600 box, hackbench -l 1000
>                                                                        avg
> 3.10.0-regress     2.293     2.297     2.313     2.291     2.295     2.297     1.000
> 3.10.0-regressx    2.560     2.524     2.427     2.599     2.602     2.542     1.106

Wow, I used to think such issue is very hard to be tracked by
benchmarks, is this regression stable?

My test could not get a stable differ, this time a little bit lose but
next time a little bit win, it's always floating, may caused by the
different chip cache-behaviour I suppose...

> 
> pahole said...
> 
> marge:/usr/local/src/kernel/linux-3.x.git # tail virgin
>         long unsigned int          timer_slack_ns;       /*  1512     8 */
>         long unsigned int          default_timer_slack_ns; /*  1520     8 */
>         atomic_t                   ptrace_bp_refcnt;     /*  1528     4 */
> 
>         /* size: 1536, cachelines: 24, members: 125 */
>         /* sum members: 1509, holes: 6, sum holes: 23 */
>         /* bit holes: 1, sum bit holes: 26 bits */
>         /* padding: 4 */
>         /* paddings: 1, sum paddings: 4 */
> };
> 
> marge:/usr/local/src/kernel/linux-3.x.git # tail michael
>         long unsigned int          default_timer_slack_ns; /*  1552     8 */
>         atomic_t                   ptrace_bp_refcnt;     /*  1560     4 */
> 
>         /* size: 1568, cachelines: 25, members: 128 */
>         /* sum members: 1533, holes: 8, sum holes: 31 */
>         /* bit holes: 1, sum bit holes: 26 bits */
>         /* padding: 4 */
>         /* paddings: 1, sum paddings: 4 */
>         /* last cacheline: 32 bytes */
> };
> 
> ..but plugging holes, didn't help, moving this/that around neither, nor
> did letting pahole go wild to get the line back.  It's plus signs I tell
> ya, the evil things must die ;-)

Hmm...so the new members kicked some tail members to a new line...or may
be totally different when compiler take part in...

It's really hard to estimate the influence, especially when the
task_struct is still keep changing...

But the task_struct is really a little big now, may be we could put the
'cold' members into a new structure and just record the pointer, that
may increase the chances of cache-hit the hot members, but it's platform
related and not so easy to be detect...

Regards,
Michael Wang

> 
> -Mike
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-05  2:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-28  5:05 [RFC PATCH] sched: smart wake-affine Michael Wang
2013-06-03  2:28 ` Michael Wang
2013-06-03  3:09   ` Mike Galbraith
2013-06-03  3:26     ` Michael Wang
2013-06-03  3:53       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-06-03  4:52         ` Michael Wang
2013-06-03  5:22           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-06-03  5:50             ` Michael Wang
2013-06-03  6:05               ` Mike Galbraith
2013-06-03  6:31                 ` Michael Wang
2013-06-13  3:09 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-02  4:43 ` [PATCH] " Michael Wang
2013-07-02  5:38   ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-02  5:50     ` Michael Wang
2013-07-02  5:54   ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-02  6:17     ` Michael Wang
2013-07-02  6:29       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-02  6:45         ` Michael Wang
2013-07-02  8:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-02  9:35     ` Michael Wang
2013-07-02  9:44       ` Michael Wang
2013-07-04  9:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-04  9:38         ` Michael Wang
2013-07-04 10:33           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-05  2:47             ` Michael Wang [this message]
2013-07-05  4:08               ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-05  4:33                 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-05  5:41                   ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-05  6:16                     ` Michael Wang
2013-07-07  6:43                       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-08  2:49                         ` Michael Wang
2013-07-08  3:12                           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-08  8:21                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-08  8:49                           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-08  9:08                             ` Michael Wang
2013-07-08  8:58                           ` Michael Wang
2013-07-08 18:59                           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-09  2:30                             ` Michael Wang
2013-07-09  2:36                               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-09  2:52                                 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-15  5:13                                   ` Michael Wang
2013-07-15  5:57                                     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-15  6:01                                       ` Michael Wang
2013-07-18  2:15                                       ` Michael Wang
2013-07-03  6:10   ` [PATCH v2] " Michael Wang
2013-07-03  8:50     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-03  9:11       ` Michael Wang

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