From: Michael Wang <wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: smart wake-affine
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 10:47:55 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51D633DB.5010508@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1372934013.9046.16.camel@marge.simpson.net>
On 07/04/2013 06:33 PM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
[snip]
>> Well, seems like we still have many follow-up research works after fix
>> the issue ;-)
>
> Yeah. Like how to how to exterminate the plus sign, they munch cache
> lines, and have a general tendency to negatively impact benchmarks.
>
> Q6600 box, hackbench -l 1000
> avg
> 3.10.0-regress 2.293 2.297 2.313 2.291 2.295 2.297 1.000
> 3.10.0-regressx 2.560 2.524 2.427 2.599 2.602 2.542 1.106
Wow, I used to think such issue is very hard to be tracked by
benchmarks, is this regression stable?
My test could not get a stable differ, this time a little bit lose but
next time a little bit win, it's always floating, may caused by the
different chip cache-behaviour I suppose...
>
> pahole said...
>
> marge:/usr/local/src/kernel/linux-3.x.git # tail virgin
> long unsigned int timer_slack_ns; /* 1512 8 */
> long unsigned int default_timer_slack_ns; /* 1520 8 */
> atomic_t ptrace_bp_refcnt; /* 1528 4 */
>
> /* size: 1536, cachelines: 24, members: 125 */
> /* sum members: 1509, holes: 6, sum holes: 23 */
> /* bit holes: 1, sum bit holes: 26 bits */
> /* padding: 4 */
> /* paddings: 1, sum paddings: 4 */
> };
>
> marge:/usr/local/src/kernel/linux-3.x.git # tail michael
> long unsigned int default_timer_slack_ns; /* 1552 8 */
> atomic_t ptrace_bp_refcnt; /* 1560 4 */
>
> /* size: 1568, cachelines: 25, members: 128 */
> /* sum members: 1533, holes: 8, sum holes: 31 */
> /* bit holes: 1, sum bit holes: 26 bits */
> /* padding: 4 */
> /* paddings: 1, sum paddings: 4 */
> /* last cacheline: 32 bytes */
> };
>
> ..but plugging holes, didn't help, moving this/that around neither, nor
> did letting pahole go wild to get the line back. It's plus signs I tell
> ya, the evil things must die ;-)
Hmm...so the new members kicked some tail members to a new line...or may
be totally different when compiler take part in...
It's really hard to estimate the influence, especially when the
task_struct is still keep changing...
But the task_struct is really a little big now, may be we could put the
'cold' members into a new structure and just record the pointer, that
may increase the chances of cache-hit the hot members, but it's platform
related and not so easy to be detect...
Regards,
Michael Wang
>
> -Mike
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-05 2:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-28 5:05 [RFC PATCH] sched: smart wake-affine Michael Wang
2013-06-03 2:28 ` Michael Wang
2013-06-03 3:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-06-03 3:26 ` Michael Wang
2013-06-03 3:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-06-03 4:52 ` Michael Wang
2013-06-03 5:22 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-06-03 5:50 ` Michael Wang
2013-06-03 6:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-06-03 6:31 ` Michael Wang
2013-06-13 3:09 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-02 4:43 ` [PATCH] " Michael Wang
2013-07-02 5:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-02 5:50 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-02 5:54 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-02 6:17 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-02 6:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-02 6:45 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-02 8:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-02 9:35 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-02 9:44 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-04 9:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-04 9:38 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-04 10:33 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-05 2:47 ` Michael Wang [this message]
2013-07-05 4:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-05 4:33 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-05 5:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-05 6:16 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-07 6:43 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-08 2:49 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-08 3:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-08 8:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-08 8:49 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-08 9:08 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-08 8:58 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-08 18:59 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-09 2:30 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-09 2:36 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-09 2:52 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-15 5:13 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-15 5:57 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-15 6:01 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-18 2:15 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-03 6:10 ` [PATCH v2] " Michael Wang
2013-07-03 8:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-03 9:11 ` Michael Wang
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