From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bpetkov@suse.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH 1/2 v2] x86: introduce int3-based instruction patching
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:31:43 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51DEDDEF.4060502@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1307111204000.29788@pobox.suse.cz>
On 07/11/2013 03:09 AM, Jiri Kosina wrote:
>>
>> I'm wondering if it would be easier/more general to just return to the
>> instruction. The "more general" bit would allow this to be used for
>> other things, like alternatives,
>
> As Boris already pointed out, this is not really that interesting, as it's
> being done through text_poke_early(), which is rather a different story
> anyway.
>
>> and perhaps eventually dynamic call patching.
>
> Umm ... could you please elaborate either what exactly do you mean by
> that, or why it can't be used currently as-is?
Dynamic call patching would be changing a CALL instruction *emitted by
the compiler* (and therefore lacking any metadata annotation) from one
target function to another. Because it lacks metadata annotations, we
can't do this as a "big bang" (all at the same time) but rather would
have to do it on demand (the original CALL would point to a "patch me"
routine.) This means a lot of patching cycles; stop_machine() is a
total nonstarter, even IPIs might be too expensive.
There is an alternative, which is postprocessing the executable to
generate metadata, but that has its own trickiness.
>> Returning to the instruction will, in effect, be a busy-wait for the
>> faulted CPU until the patch is complete; more or less what stop_machine
>> would do, but only for a CPU which actually strays into the affected
>> region.
>
> To be honest, I fail to see a clear advantage ... we don't avoid any extra
> IPI by it, and wrt. "correctness", the end result is the same.
>
The current code assumes that one of the two code sequences is a NOP,
and therefore that jumping over the region is legal. This does not
allow for transitioning one active code sequence to another.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-11 16:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-10 20:25 [RFC] [PATCH 0/2] x86: make jump labels use int3-based breakpoint instead of stop_machine() Jiri Kosina
2013-07-10 20:25 ` [RFC] [PATCH 1/2] x86: introduce int3-based instruction patching Jiri Kosina
2013-07-10 21:31 ` [RFC] [PATCH 1/2 v2] " Jiri Kosina
2013-07-10 21:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-10 21:48 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-10 21:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-10 22:14 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-10 22:39 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-11 3:29 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-07-11 10:09 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-11 10:54 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-11 16:31 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-07-11 16:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-11 19:21 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-12 1:00 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-07-11 14:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-11 14:47 ` Jason Baron
2013-07-10 21:46 ` Joe Perches
2013-07-11 10:23 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-07-11 10:51 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-12 0:50 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-07-11 16:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-11 19:29 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-11 20:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-11 20:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-11 15:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-11 19:43 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-11 19:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-10 20:25 ` [RFC] [PATCH 2/2] x86: make jump_label use int3-based patching Jiri Kosina
2013-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC] [PATCH 0/2] x86: make jump labels use int3-based breakpoint instead of stop_machine() Jason Baron
2013-07-11 0:04 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-11 16:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-11 19:23 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-11 19:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-11 2:21 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-07-11 20:26 ` [PATCH 2/2 v3] x86: make jump_label use int3-based patching Jiri Kosina
2013-07-12 2:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-12 5:44 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-07-11 20:26 ` [PATCH 1/2 v3] x86: introduce int3-based instruction patching Jiri Kosina
2013-07-11 20:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-11 21:04 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-11 21:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-12 7:57 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-17 3:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-11 22:31 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-12 2:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-11 23:01 ` Joe Perches
2013-07-12 2:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-12 2:40 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-07-12 9:21 ` [PATCH 1/2 v4] " Jiri Kosina
2013-07-17 1:18 ` [tip:x86/jumplabel] x86: Introduce int3 (breakpoint) -based " tip-bot for Jiri Kosina
2013-07-12 9:22 ` [PATCH 2/2 v4] x86: make jump_label use int3-based patching Jiri Kosina
2013-07-17 1:18 ` [tip:x86/jumplabel] x86: Make " tip-bot for Jiri Kosina
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