From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933587Ab3GPRkD (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:40:03 -0400 Received: from b.ns.miles-group.at ([95.130.255.144]:1660 "EHLO radon.swed.at" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933059Ab3GPRkB (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:40:01 -0400 Message-ID: <51E5856C.3020504@nod.at> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:39:56 +0200 From: Richard Weinberger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ramkumar Ramachandra CC: LKML , Jeff Dike Subject: Re: [PATCH] um/configs: don't use devtmpfs in defconfig References: <1373993525-25629-1-git-send-email-artagnon@gmail.com> <51E57BC1.4090904@nod.at> <51E57DF3.90304@nod.at> <51E58190.4050808@nod.at> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Am 16.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Ramkumar Ramachandra: > Richard Weinberger wrote: >> BTW: I'll not apply any patch to the kernel if the issue can easily >> fixed in user space, that's the major reason for my NAK. > > I was just asking for good defaults; I want um Linux to work > out-of-the-box. There's really no point in creating bogus devices in > /dev, and make life unnecessarily hard for user-space applications: > instead of checking for existence, they'd have to check that all the > devices work. I doubt systemd will accept such a patch, just to bend > over backwards and support um. Out of the box wont work in all cases. But you can easily adjust some systemd units. Like any visualization technology UML comes with some trade-offs. Thanks, //richard