From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
mingo@kernel.org, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com, alex.shi@intel.com, efault@gmx.de,
pjt@google.com, len.brown@intel.com, corbet@lwn.net,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/9] sched: Power scheduler design proposal
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:32:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51E5ADC5.9010105@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130716201702.GW17211@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 7/16/2013 1:17 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:57:34PM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>> then the question of how much remaining capacity; this is a hard one, and not just
>> for Intel. Almost all mobile devices today are thermally constrained, ARM and Intel
>> alike (at least the higher performance ones)... the curse of wanting very thin and light
>> phones that are made of thermally isolating plastic (so that radio waves can go through)
>> and have a nice and bright screen...
>
> Right, so we might need to track a !idle avg over the thermal domain to
> guestimate the head-room and inter-cpu relations.
btw one thing to realize is that many of the thermal limits in mobile devices don't have the CPU cores
as the primary reason.
Other components on the board (screens, modems etc) as well as the GPU likely impact
this at least as much as actual cpu usage does.
It's usually just that the CPU is the easiest to control down,
so that tends to be the first one impacted.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-16 20:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-09 15:55 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] sched: Power scheduler design proposal Morten Rasmussen
2013-07-09 15:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/9] sched: Introduce power scheduler Morten Rasmussen
2013-07-09 16:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-10 2:10 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-10 11:11 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-07-10 11:19 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-07-09 15:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/9] sched: Redirect update_cpu_power to sched/power.c Morten Rasmussen
2013-07-09 15:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/9] sched: Make select_idle_sibling() skip cpu with a cpu_power of 1 Morten Rasmussen
2013-07-09 15:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/9] sched: Make periodic load-balance disregard cpus " Morten Rasmussen
2013-07-09 15:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/9] sched: Make idle_balance() skip " Morten Rasmussen
2013-07-09 15:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/9] sched: power: add power_domain data structure Morten Rasmussen
2013-07-09 15:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/9] sched: power: Add power driver interface Morten Rasmussen
2013-07-09 15:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/9] sched: power: Add initial frequency scaling support to power scheduler Morten Rasmussen
2013-07-10 13:10 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-12 12:51 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-07-12 13:06 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-07-12 15:37 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-09 15:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 9/9] sched: power: cpufreq: Initial schedpower cpufreq governor Morten Rasmussen
2013-07-09 16:58 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] sched: Power scheduler design proposal Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-10 11:16 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-07-10 13:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-12 12:46 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-07-12 15:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-12 13:00 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-07-12 15:44 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-11 11:34 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-07-12 13:48 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-07-15 3:43 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-07-15 9:55 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-07-15 15:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-12 13:31 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-07-13 6:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-13 10:23 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-07-15 7:53 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-07-15 20:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-16 12:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-07-16 15:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-17 14:14 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-07-24 13:50 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-07-24 15:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-24 16:46 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-07-24 16:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-25 8:00 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-07-13 14:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-15 19:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-15 20:37 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-15 21:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-15 22:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-16 20:45 ` David Lang
2013-07-15 20:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-15 21:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-15 21:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-15 22:52 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-16 17:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-16 18:44 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-16 19:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-16 19:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-16 20:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-16 20:21 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-16 20:32 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2013-07-15 22:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-13 16:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-07-15 2:05 ` Alex Shi
2013-07-24 13:16 ` Morten Rasmussen
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