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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
	jmario@redhat.com, dzickus@redhat.com,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched,x86: optimize switch_mm for multi-threaded workloads
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:39:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51F99218.4060104@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwj+6P4y8MgGTGbiK_EtfY7LJ_bL_7k9zFYLx4S8F0rJQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 07/31/2013 06:21 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Ummm.. The race is to the testing of the bit, not setting. The testing
> of the bit is not valid before we have set the tlb state, AFAIK.

I believe the bit is cleared and set by the current CPU.

Clearing is done from the TLB flush IPI handler, or by directly
calling leave_mm from ptep_flush_clear if the flush originated
locally.  The exception is clear_tasks_mm_cpumask, which may
only be called for an already offlined CPU.

I believe setting is only ever done in switch_mm.

Interrupts are blocked inside switch_mm, so I think we
are safe.

Would you like a comment to this effect in the code, or
are there other things we need to check first?

> On Jul 31, 2013 3:16 PM, "Rik van Riel" <riel@redhat.com
> <mailto:riel@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 07/31/2013 06:07 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>         On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com
>         <mailto:riel@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>
>             The cause turned out to be unnecessary atomic accesses to the
>             mm_cpumask. When in lazy TLB mode, the CPU is only removed from
>             the mm_cpumask if there is a TLB flush event.
>
>             Most of the time, no such TLB flush happens, and the kernel
>             skips the TLB reload.  It can also skip the atomic memory
>             set & test.
>
>
>         The patch looks obvious, and I'm not seeing any very clear
>         reasons for
>         why we would want that test-and-set to be atomic. That said, I'd
>         like
>         to have some explicit comments about exactly why it doesn't need the
>         atomicity. Because afaik, there actually are concurrent readers
>         _and_
>         writers of that mask, and the accesses are not locked by anything
>         here.
>
>      >
>
>         I _think_ the reason for this all being safe is simply that the only
>         real race is "We need to set the bit before we load the page table,
>         and we're protected against that bit being cleared because the TLB
>         state is TLBSTATE_OK and thus TLB flushing will no longer leave that
>         mm".
>
>         But damn, it all looks subtle as hell. That code does:
>
>                           this_cpu_write(cpu_tlbstate.__state, TLBSTATE_OK);
>                           BUG_ON(this_cpu_read(cpu___tlbstate.active_mm)
>         != next);
>
>                           if (!cpumask_test_and_set_cpu(__cpu,
>         mm_cpumask(next))) {
>
>         and I'm wondering if we need a barrier to make sure that that
>         TLBSTATE_OK write happens *before* we test the cpumask. With
>         test_and_set(), we have the barrier in the test-and-set. But
>         with just
>         test_bit, I'm not seeing why the compiler couldn't re-order them. I
>         suspect it won't, but...
>
>
>     cpumask_set_bit expands to set_bit, which is atomic
>
>     Do we need any explicit compiler barrier in addition to the
>     atomic operation performed by set_bit?
>
>     I would be happy to rewrite the comment right above the
>     cpumask_set_cpu call if you want.
>
>     --
>     All rights reversed
>


-- 
All rights reversed

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-31 22:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-31 21:43 [PATCH] sched,x86: optimize switch_mm for multi-threaded workloads Rik van Riel
2013-07-31 21:46 ` Paul Turner
2013-07-31 22:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-31 22:16   ` Rik van Riel
     [not found]     ` <CA+55aFwj+6P4y8MgGTGbiK_EtfY7LJ_bL_7k9zFYLx4S8F0rJQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-07-31 22:39       ` Rik van Riel [this message]
     [not found]         ` <CA+55aFxKSEHSkdsCkTvjwwo4MnEpN0TwJrek2jd1QJCyUTb-=Q@mail.gmail.com>
2013-07-31 23:12           ` Rik van Riel
2013-07-31 23:14             ` Paul Turner
2013-08-01  0:41               ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-01  1:58                 ` Rik van Riel
2013-08-01  2:14                   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-01  2:14                 ` [PATCH -v2] " Rik van Riel
2013-08-01  2:25                   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-01  7:04                     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-08-02  9:07                   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/x86: Optimize switch_mm() " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2013-08-02  9:12                     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-08-02 12:44                       ` Joe Mario
2013-08-03  1:18                       ` Greg KH
2013-08-01 15:37             ` [PATCH] sched,x86: optimize switch_mm " Jörn Engel
2013-08-01 17:45               ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-01 17:54                 ` Jörn Engel

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