From: Bob Smith <bsmith@linuxtoys.org>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 001/001] CHAR DRIVERS: a simple device to give daemons a /sys-like interface
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 11:12:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51FD47F2.702@linuxtoys.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130803023512.GA22635@kroah.com>
Greg
Thanks for your reply. I'll reply to your comments in reverse order.
Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> And how does this have anything to do with /sys? I can't see any sysfs
> interaction in the code, or am I missing it?
Yes, you are right. I'll change the subject and brief descriptions to
something like:
"Proxy, a simple bidirectional character device that almost transparently
proxies opens, reads, writes, and closes from one side of the device to
the other side."
I'll take "/sys" from all descriptions of the device, but I might leave it
in the Documentation/proxy.txt file since a major use case of proxy is to
give user space drivers and daemons the same kind of interface the kernel
enjoys with /sys and /proc. The similarity is very deliberate on my part
for commands like
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward # procfs
echo 75 > /dev/motors/left/speed # proxy dev
Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> Why not just use the cuse interface instead? How does this differ from
> that /dev node interaction?
I am a big fan of FUSE and CUSE but they do not support what I need. CUSE
is OK if _ALL_ interaction is through its interface. What is lacking is
an ability to open, say, a USB serial port and add its file descriptor to
CUSE's FD_SET. This is a pretty deep problem since a CUSE takes away main()
from the application developer. A CUSE application looks kind of like this:
main(argc, argv)
{
(check and process command line)
cuse_lowlevel_main(argc, argv, ...)
}
Another difference is that no language bindings are needed. There is no
equivalent of libfuse.so. Since proxy is just a character device and there
are no language bindings, someone could, in the unlikely case it ever made
sense, write a user space device driver in node.js.
thanks
Bob Smith
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2013-08-03 1:19 ` [PATCH 001/001] CHAR DRIVERS: a simple device to give daemons a /sys-like interface Bob Smith
2013-08-03 1:56 ` Joe Perches
2013-08-03 2:35 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-08-03 18:12 ` Bob Smith [this message]
2013-08-03 22:38 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-08-04 21:54 ` Bob Smith
2013-08-04 23:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-08-05 23:46 ` Bob Smith
2013-08-06 9:46 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-08-07 19:02 ` Bob Smith
2013-08-07 19:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-08-07 19:39 ` Bob Smith
2013-08-07 19:51 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-08-07 19:54 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-08-07 21:04 ` Bob Smith
2013-08-07 21:33 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-08-08 21:23 ` Bob Smith
2013-08-09 21:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-08-09 22:20 ` Bob Smith
2013-08-09 22:14 ` Bob Smith
2013-08-09 23:01 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-08-09 23:35 ` Bob Smith
2013-08-09 23:46 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-08-10 20:08 ` Bob Smith
2013-08-10 20:29 ` richard -rw- weinberger
2013-08-10 20:49 ` Bob Smith
2013-08-10 21:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-08-10 22:07 ` Bob Smith
2013-08-13 20:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-08-07 21:28 ` Bob Smith
2013-08-07 21:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-08-07 21:53 ` Bob Smith
2013-08-09 21:54 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-08-09 22:51 ` Bob Smith
2013-08-09 23:04 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-08-07 21:38 ` Bob Smith
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