From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>,
edk2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org,
Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [edk2] Corrupted EFI region
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 09:26:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5200A541.7050203@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1375743157.18481.14.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com>
On 08/06/13 00:52, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-08-05 at 23:55 +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>> On 08/05/13 23:41, Borislav Petkov wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 02:37:08PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>>>> All of this would be a non-problem if there weren't buggy
>>>> implementations which can't run *without* SetVirtualAddressMap().
>>>
>>> Oh, you mean, if we were to call the runtime services through their
>>> physical addresses?
>>
>> I heard that there was a (U)EFI firmware implementation that didn't even
>> implement SetVirtualAddressMap(). It was okay because the main OS for
>> that platform didn't want to call it, it thunked to physical mode for
>> each runtime service call.
>>
>> (This is not hearsay; I'm omitting the specifics because I'm not sure if
>> I'm allowed to give any. I've heard about this stuff from a direct
>> colleague who used to work on these systems.)
>
> That's actually the way all non-x86 unix systems operate. If you look
> in the firmware mechanisms for almost every non-x86 system in the Linux
> kernel architecture directories they do this if they have to access
> firmware from Linux (we do it a lot on parisc to get the IODC to give us
> the device inventory for instance).
>
> I strongly suspect the origin of this weirdness is that once upon a time
> windows didn't run with a separated address space and so needed a way of
> accessing firmware in the same address space, hence the pointer
> relocation trick, but even windows hasn't needed this for a while.
Thank you for educating me.
Laszlo
prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-06 7:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-31 20:54 Corrupted EFI region Borislav Petkov
2013-07-31 20:58 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-07-31 21:51 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-31 21:54 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-08-01 16:51 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-31 21:55 ` David Woodhouse
2013-08-01 16:49 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 11:27 ` [edk2] " Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 13:02 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 13:39 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 14:03 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 14:27 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 14:40 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 15:15 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 15:34 ` James Bottomley
2013-08-05 16:27 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 16:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 16:41 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 16:47 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 17:00 ` Kinney, Michael D
2013-08-05 17:09 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 21:26 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 22:08 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-06 14:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-06 15:31 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-07 15:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-07 17:23 ` Andrew Fish
2013-08-07 20:19 ` Matt Fleming
2013-08-07 20:24 ` Matt Fleming
2013-08-07 21:10 ` Andrew Fish
2013-08-07 21:23 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-08-08 10:17 ` Matt Fleming
2013-08-08 13:46 ` Andrew Fish
2013-09-02 8:19 ` Matt Fleming
2013-09-13 20:38 ` jerry.hoemann
2013-09-16 10:59 ` Matt Fleming
2013-09-16 11:50 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-09-16 15:57 ` Josh Triplett
2013-09-16 16:25 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-09-16 16:27 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-09-16 16:29 ` Josh Triplett
2013-09-18 19:24 ` jerry.hoemann
2013-09-20 9:06 ` Matt Fleming
2013-08-07 17:49 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-08 15:02 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-08 21:45 ` Brian J. Johnson
2013-08-18 7:33 ` Jordan Justen
2013-08-05 15:50 ` Andrew Fish
2013-08-05 18:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 21:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-05 21:41 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 21:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-05 21:55 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 22:52 ` James Bottomley
2013-08-06 7:26 ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
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