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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"rob.herring@calxeda.com" <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Pawel Moll <Pawel.Moll@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"grant.likely@linaro.org" <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	"devicetree@kernel.org" <devicetree@kernel.org>,
	"linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Non-enumerable devices on USB and other enumerable buses
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:08:17 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52092491.7060605@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130812110714.GA6616@e106331-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On 08/12/2013 05:07 AM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> [Adding Olof]
> 
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:51:36AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 09:53:01PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
>>> On Sun, 11 Aug 2013, Mark Brown wrote:
>>
>>>> One example that's bugging me right now is that on the Insignal Arndale
>>>> platform there's a USB hub connected to one of the USB ports on the SoC
>>>> (not as a PHY, it seems we also need the internal PHY running to talk to
>>>> the device).  The hub needs to be "plugged" into the SoC after the SoC
>>>> USB controller has started with some GPIOs so we need to tell the system
>>>> that the hub exists and needs to be synchronised with the USB controller.
...
> As I understand it, the wifi chip on the Snow Chromebook has a similar
> issue -- it hangs off of a probeable SDIO bus, but needs a regulator
> poked for it to turn on and become probeable (see
> exynos_wifi_bt_set_power in [1]).

In this case, I wonder if it makes sense to model the extra requirements
as part of the bus/socket/... itself rather than as part of the device
that's attached to the bus.

It seems quite common for SDIO-based WiFi devices to need a few things:
* Regulator
* 32KHz clock
* Enable GPIO (-> rfkill?)
* Perhaps a reset GPIO

Physically, these are provided to the socket into which the WiFi device
plugs in. Perhaps we should try to explicitly model the socket (which I
guess is really the SDIO bus in a way) rather than attaching these new
resources to the controller or the device itself.

In a similar way, I wonder if the USB case can be considered the same
way? This seems less like a good fit since I don't expect the resources
are always so similar there, and also there's the case of the bus being
potentially behind a few levels of USB hub.

And of course it all gets a little more messy when you get
board-specific logic that needs setup, rather than something more common
across multiple devices.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-12 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-11 19:08 Non-enumerable devices on USB and other enumerable buses Mark Brown
2013-08-11 22:08 ` Grant Likely
2013-08-12 14:41   ` Mark Brown
2013-08-12  1:53 ` Alan Stern
2013-08-12  9:51   ` Mark Brown
2013-08-12 11:07     ` Mark Rutland
2013-08-12 11:32       ` Mark Brown
2013-08-12 18:08       ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2013-08-12 20:38         ` Mark Brown
2013-08-12  2:02 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-08-12 11:23   ` Mark Brown
2013-08-12 20:50     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-08-12 21:40       ` Mark Brown
2013-08-13  1:04         ` Alan Stern
2013-08-14 11:38           ` Mark Brown
2013-08-14 14:27             ` Alan Stern
2013-08-14 15:39               ` Mark Brown
2013-08-14 16:14                 ` Alan Stern
2013-08-14 16:30                   ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-14 18:49                     ` Mark Brown
2013-08-14 17:30                   ` Mark Brown
2013-08-14 18:35                     ` Alan Stern
2013-08-14 18:46                       ` Mark Brown
2013-08-14 19:39                         ` Alan Stern
2013-08-14 20:16                           ` Paul Zimmerman
2013-08-14 23:59                             ` Mark Brown
2013-08-14 23:55                           ` Mark Brown
2013-08-15 14:42                             ` Alan Stern
2013-08-15 17:10                               ` Mark Brown
2013-08-15 17:55                                 ` Alan Stern
2013-08-15 19:32                                   ` Mark Brown
2013-08-15 20:42                                     ` Alan Stern
2013-08-15 22:54                                       ` Mark Brown
2013-08-16 14:42                                         ` Alan Stern
2013-08-16 18:39                                           ` Mark Brown
2013-08-16 19:27                                             ` Alan Stern
2013-08-16 20:00                                               ` Mark Brown
2013-08-16 20:39                                                 ` Alan Stern
2013-08-16 22:46                                                   ` Mark Brown
2013-08-17  1:29                                                     ` Alan Stern
2013-08-19 12:17                                                       ` Ming Lei
2013-08-19 16:01                                                         ` Mark Brown
2013-08-20 13:19                                                           ` Ming Lei
2013-08-20 15:02                                                             ` Mark Brown

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