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From: Chen Gang <gang.chen@asianux.com>
To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	"'Jiri Kosina'" <trivial@kernel.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"dhowells@redhat.com" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	davej@redhat.com, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH trivial] UAPI: Kbuild: add/modify comments for "uapi/Kbuild" and "uapi/linux/Kbuild"
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:30:11 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <521739B3.9050001@asianux.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52145F5C.9090907@asianux.com>

Hello Maintainers:

Is this patch suitable for applying ?  Does it belong to 'trivial' (or
'Documentation', or others) ?


And sorry for my original missing some important mail addresses when I
sent the original patch (I got them by "./scripts/get_maintainers", and
not give more considerations for them).

So I append my original patch below, if necessary, please help check
when you have time, thanks.


------------------------------patch begin-------------------------------

"include/uapi/" is the whole Linux kernel API, it is important enough
to get more global explanations by comments.

In "include/uapi/Kbuild", "Makefile..." and "non-arch..." comments are
meaningless for current 'Kbuild', so delete them.

And add more explanations for "include/uapi/" in "include/uapi/Kbuild",
also add more explanations for "include/uapi/linux/" in "include/uapi
/linux/Kbuild".


Signed-off-by: Chen Gang <gang.chen@asianux.com>
---
 include/uapi/Kbuild       |    5 ++---
 include/uapi/linux/Kbuild |    2 ++
 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/include/uapi/Kbuild b/include/uapi/Kbuild
index 81d2106..c682891 100644
--- a/include/uapi/Kbuild
+++ b/include/uapi/Kbuild
@@ -1,7 +1,6 @@
 # UAPI Header export list
-# Top-level Makefile calls into asm-$(ARCH)
-# List only non-arch directories below
-
+# Except "linux/", UAPI means Universal API.
+# For "linux/", UAPI means User API which can be used by user mode.

 header-y += asm-generic/
 header-y += linux/
diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/Kbuild b/include/uapi/linux/Kbuild
index 997f9f2..0025e07 100644
--- a/include/uapi/linux/Kbuild
+++ b/include/uapi/linux/Kbuild
@@ -1,4 +1,6 @@
 # UAPI Header export list
+# UAPI is User API which can be used by user mode.
+
 header-y += byteorder/
 header-y += can/
 header-y += caif/
-- 
1.7.7.6

------------------------------patch end---------------------------------


Thanks.


On 08/21/2013 02:34 PM, Chen Gang wrote:
> Hello all:
> 
> According to the reply of yours, it seems we need more 'work' for the
> API related documents.  If really it is, I need change my 'work' way
> for it.
> 
> Currently, my 'work' way is "finding and solving issues", which may be
> efficient for 'grow up' sub-systems (e.g. "kernel/" sub-system).
> 
> But for the sub-systems which are lack of main contents (or too many
> issues to solve), I think the efficient way is "get 'tasks' from the
> related maintainers and finish 'tasks' one by one".
> 
> If the related maintainers agree with me, they can send 'tasks' to me,
> and I am glad to finish them one by one.
> 
> 
> Reason (why I am glad to do it):
> 
>   1. The API related documents are really important for us, and currently need more 'work'.
>   2. 'getting tasks' is an efficient way for it.
>   3. it is additional good chance to me for English training (I should do additional trying to improve my English).
> 
> 
> Limitations (my resources):
> 
>   1. finish one API document related task per month (excuse me, I have no additional time resources for it).
>   2. my English is not quite well, it may have negative effect with the efficiency.
>   3. sometimes, I can not connect to net, which may not give response in time.
> 
>      e.g. recently, 2013-08-08 -- 2013-08-19, but I may still can 'work' for it (queue patches and waiting the network OK).
> 
> 
> BTW: I also can try the English-Chinese translations tasks. ;-)
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> On 08/08/2013 10:13 AM, Chen Gang wrote:
>> Hello Rob:
>>
>> Maybe I misunderstand what you said (if so, I am sorry for it).
>>
>> At least for me, what you said is valuable to get additional discussion,
>> but it seems better to start a new thread for it and also cc to
>> linux-doc mail list.
>>
>> If so better include me in cc list, thanks.  ;-)
>>
>> If you think still suitable to discuss about it in this mail thread,
>> please continue, at least, I still welcome.  :-)
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 08/07/2013 04:48 PM, Chen Gang wrote:
>>> On 08/07/2013 03:32 PM, Rob Landley wrote:
>>>> On 08/06/2013 12:31:43 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 09:46 +0800, Chen Gang wrote:
>>>>>> "include/uapi/" is the whole Linux kernel API, it is important enough
>>>>>> to get more global explanations by comments.
>>>>>
>>>>> It'd probably be useful to have more descriptions
>>>>> of uapi in the Documentation directory too.
>>>>
>>>> I'd rather have comments in the headers that get exported to userspace
>>>> and then have other forms of documentation generated from that by some
>>>> process similar to "make htmldocs". Otherwise you've got two places to
>>>> keep in sync.
>>>>
>>>
>>> At least for me, it is a good idea, although UAPI files is rarely
>>> changed (may add new item, but few modifying the existing items).
>>>
>>> And for our case, it is summary comments for directory organization for
>>> all UAPI files, so in my opinion, it is still necessary to give summary
>>> comments in Kbuild.
>>>
>>> In Linux user mode or another OS which share the same files of UAPI,
>>> they do not care about our kernel's Kbuild, for they have their own
>>> directory organizations which may different with Linux kernel's.
>>>
>>>> (Really the guy you've got to keep in the loop about this is Michael
>>>> Kerrisk. The section 2 man pages are the current best reference on UAPI
>>>> stuff...)
>>>>
>>>
>>> As far as I know, the section 2 man pages is already for it (e.g. man 2
>>> setfuid, man 2 open, ...).
>>>
>>> Do you mean currently it is only for some of system calls (part of
>>> UAPI), not for the whole UAPI ?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 


-- 
Chen Gang

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-23 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-06  1:46 [PATCH trivial] UAPI: Kbuild: add/modify comments for "uapi/Kbuild" and "uapi/linux/Kbuild" Chen Gang
2013-08-06 17:31 ` Joe Perches
2013-08-07  2:42   ` Chen Gang
2013-08-07  7:32   ` Rob Landley
2013-08-07  8:48     ` Chen Gang
2013-08-08  2:13       ` Chen Gang
2013-08-21  6:34         ` Chen Gang
2013-08-23 10:30           ` Chen Gang [this message]
2013-09-03  5:57             ` Chen Gang
2013-09-05  0:46               ` [PATCH trivial v2] " Chen Gang
2013-09-05  1:05                 ` Chen Gang
2013-09-05  1:09                 ` [PATCH trivial v3] include/uapi/Kbuild: modify the comments for it Chen Gang
2013-10-01  2:19                   ` Chen Gang
2013-10-01  3:21                   ` [PATCH trivial v4] include/uapi/Kbuild: modify comment to provide summary descriptions for Linux UAPI Chen Gang
2013-09-03 16:41 ` [PATCH trivial] UAPI: Kbuild: add/modify comments for "uapi/Kbuild" and "uapi/linux/Kbuild" Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-04  1:08   ` Chen Gang
2013-09-04  7:02     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-04  8:09       ` Chen Gang
2013-09-04  9:02         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-04  9:13           ` Chen Gang
2013-09-04  9:27             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-04  9:38               ` Chen Gang
2013-09-04 11:19                 ` Chen Gang

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