From: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Arun Sharma <asharma@fb.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Kumar Sundararajan <kumar@fb.com>
Subject: Re: clock_gettime_ns
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 16:20:54 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5227C056.1020604@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5227BC71.6000907@zytor.com>
On 09/04/2013 04:04 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 09/04/2013 03:59 PM, John Stultz wrote:
>> Also, there's been talk of a slewed-leap-second clockid, basically UTC
>> but around the leapsecond it slows down to absorb the extra second. This
>> means that clockid would have a subsecond offset from TAI.
>>
> Most of what I have heard seem to center around abolishing leap seconds
> entirely. Now, I know that some users do slewed leap seconds as a
> unofficial policy to avoid rare events.
Well, Google does their own slewed leap-seconds internally (using a
modified ntp server to slow CLOCK_REALTIME on clients), and I believe
AIX also provides similar behavior w/ their CLOCK_REALTIME clockid (they
also provide CLOCK_UTC for those who have the need for UTC/leapseconds).
And there's also some occasional talk of trying to standardizing a
leap-second free UTC.
I suspect we have to have an all-of-the-above policy with the kernel. So
we now (as of 3.10) support CLOCK_TAI, as well as the UTC-based
CLOCK_REALTIME. If we can get some agreement on what the
slewed-leapsecond adjustment should look like (have to decide what the
slewing rate/range is: do we absorb the second over the last-hour,
half-hour, 15-minutes before and after?), then we can add such a clockid
(CLOCK_UTC_SLS?) to the kernel as well.
thanks
-john
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-04 23:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-04 9:18 clock_gettime_ns Arun Sharma
2013-09-04 18:51 ` clock_gettime_ns Andy Lutomirski
2013-09-04 19:20 ` clock_gettime_ns John Stultz
2013-09-04 20:33 ` clock_gettime_ns Andy Lutomirski
2013-09-04 20:54 ` clock_gettime_ns John Stultz
2013-09-04 22:29 ` clock_gettime_ns H. Peter Anvin
2013-09-04 22:59 ` clock_gettime_ns John Stultz
2013-09-04 23:04 ` clock_gettime_ns H. Peter Anvin
2013-09-04 23:20 ` John Stultz [this message]
2013-09-04 23:38 ` clock_gettime_ns Andy Lutomirski
2013-09-05 1:22 ` clock_gettime_ns H. Peter Anvin
2013-09-09 17:47 ` clock_gettime_ns Andy Lutomirski
2013-09-11 18:50 ` clock_gettime_ns Richard Cochran
2013-09-04 19:17 ` clock_gettime_ns John Stultz
2013-09-04 20:23 ` clock_gettime_ns Andy Lutomirski
2013-09-04 20:50 ` clock_gettime_ns John Stultz
2013-09-05 4:45 ` clock_gettime_ns Arun Sharma
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