From: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
To: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
dave.taht@bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] /dev/random: Insufficient of entropy on many architectures
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 13:35:00 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <522F8274.7020406@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5400101.STbFFoov5a@tauon>
On 09/10/2013 12:47 PM, Stephan Mueller wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 10. September 2013, 12:38:56 schrieb John Stultz:
>
> Hi John,
>
>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> /dev/random uses the get_cycles() function to obtain entropy in
>>> addition to jiffies and the event value of hardware events.
>>>
>>> Typically the high-resolution timer of get_cycles delivers the
>>> majority of entropy, because the event value is quite deterministic
>>> and jiffies are very coarse.
>> [snip]
>>
>>> The following patch uses the clocksource clock for a time value in
>>> case get_cycles returns 0. As clocksource may not be available
>>> during boot time, a flag is introduced which allows random.c to
>>> check the availability of clocksource.
>> [snip]
>>
>>> diff --git a/kernel/time/timekeeping.c b/kernel/time/timekeeping.c
>>> index 48b9fff..75b1613 100644
>>> --- a/kernel/time/timekeeping.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/time/timekeeping.c
>>> @@ -35,6 +35,7 @@ static struct timekeeper timekeeper;
>>>
>>> static DEFINE_RAW_SPINLOCK(timekeeper_lock);
>>> static seqcount_t timekeeper_seq;
>>> static struct timekeeper shadow_timekeeper;
>>>
>>> +static bool timekeeper_enabled = 0;
>>>
>>> /* flag for if timekeeping is suspended */
>>> int __read_mostly timekeeping_suspended;
>>>
>>> @@ -833,8 +834,15 @@ void __init timekeeping_init(void)
>>>
>>> write_seqcount_end(&timekeeper_seq);
>>> raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&timekeeper_lock, flags);
>>>
>>> + timekeeper_enabled = 1;
>>>
>>> }
>> So the end of timekeeping_init() may not be what you want here. This
>> only means we've started up the timekeping core with only the default
>> clocksource (with only few exceptions, this is almost always jiffies).
>> Then as clocksource drivers are initialized, they are registered and
>> the timekeeping core will switch over to the best available
>> clocksource. Also, to avoid the churn at boot of switching to every
>> clocksource registered, we queue them up and wait until fs_init time
>> to switch to whatever is the best available then.
>>
>> So its likely with this patch that the systems all still end up using
>> jiffies for their clocksource at least until fs_init time.
> Thank you for the explanation. Is there any trigger that is fired at
> fs_init time that one can read?
Check out clocksource_done_booting(), as that's probably where you'd
want to add something similar. Now this doesn't ensure non-jiffies
clocksources are installed, just that we're far enough into boot that we
assume most of the system's clocksources have been registered.
timekeeping_valid_for_hres() might be a better check for what you're
looking for, since that means some free-running clocksource has been
installed.
thanks
-john
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-10 20:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-10 11:31 [PATCH] /dev/random: Insufficient of entropy on many architectures Stephan Mueller
2013-09-10 11:46 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-10 15:04 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 16:54 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-10 18:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 19:15 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-10 6:50 ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-14 21:13 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 20:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-10 21:14 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-11 6:49 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-12 11:59 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-12 12:08 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-12 12:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-12 12:35 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-12 12:47 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-12 12:57 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-12 21:18 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-13 11:33 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-09-12 14:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 19:38 ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 19:44 ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 19:47 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-10 20:35 ` John Stultz [this message]
2013-09-10 20:38 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 20:46 ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 21:10 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 22:08 ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 22:33 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-11 0:31 ` John Stultz
2013-09-11 0:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-11 1:14 ` John Stultz
2013-09-12 20:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-09-12 21:07 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-12 23:31 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-12 23:35 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-13 0:00 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-16 15:40 ` [PATCH,RFC] random: make fast_mix() honor its name Jörn Engel
2013-09-21 21:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-21 21:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-22 3:05 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-22 21:01 ` Jörg-Volker Peetz
2013-09-22 21:27 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-22 20:53 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-22 23:36 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-23 0:16 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-23 2:43 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-23 15:02 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-23 7:39 ` Jörg-Volker Peetz
2013-09-22 20:31 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-22 20:14 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-12 21:31 ` [PATCH] /dev/random: Insufficient of entropy on many architectures Jörn Engel
2013-09-13 5:36 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-13 11:54 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-09-13 19:29 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-13 15:26 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-13 18:59 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-15 11:12 ` Stephan Mueller
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