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From: Michal Simek <monstr@monstr.eu>
To: Philip Balister <philip@balister.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@denx.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Alan Tull <atull@altera.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Dinh Nguyen <dinguyen@altera.com>,
	Alessandro Rubini <rubini@gnudd.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <m.chehab@samsung.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Cesar Eduardo Barros <cesarb@cesarb.net>,
	Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	David Brown <davidb@codeaurora.org>,
	Dom Cobley <popcornmix@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] fpga: Introduce new fpga subsystem
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:43:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5242F695.2070506@monstr.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5242F2EF.2050900@balister.org>

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On 09/25/2013 04:27 PM, Philip Balister wrote:
> On 09/25/2013 08:00 AM, Pavel Machek wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>>>>> The firmware approach is interesting.  It might be less flexible
>>>>> compared with my original code (see link to git below) that this is
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand... that's the interface world wants, right? To most
>>>> users, fpga bitstream is just a firmware.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, not really.
>>>
>>> The typical assumption with the firmware interface is that there is
>>> exactly one possible firmware for each device (possibly modulated by
>>> driver version, but still.)  
>>
>> Actually, I have seen counterexample there, too. Wifi card had
>> different firmware for host and access points mode, probably because
>> internal RAM could not fit both at same time. 
> 
> And another counter example ...
> 
> For the Zynq based product I am working on, we encourage the end user to
> create their own bitstreams to customize their application. So we need
> an easy way for the user to load a bitstream. cat foo.bin > /dev/xdevcfg
> works well for us.

You probably don't care if this will be
cat foo.bin > /sys/fpga/fpga0/<whatever>
(for zynq case you can also run)
cat foo.bit > /sys/fpga/fpga0/<whatever>

FYI: Current driver in xilinx repo supports bit format too.

> Then we need to make sure that the interface supports partial
> reconfiguration.

That will be next step.

> That said, having a sane user api that addresses the various fpga use
> cases would be a win for use since we would not need to write custom
> user space code for every platform created in the future. I'd like to
> see this api work with things like PCI based FPGA cards and discrete
> fpgas that are not integrated with an arm etc.

I don't have any PCI based FPGA card to have information how to work with
it but for discrete fpga I have one application note where jtag is emulated
by gpio interface and you can program another fpga from zynq (This can
be probably generic case for any combination in this 4 pin connection).

Thanks,
Michal

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-25 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-18 15:56 [RFC PATCH 0/1] FPGA subsystem core Michal Simek
2013-09-18 15:56 ` [RFC PATCH] fpga: Introduce new fpga subsystem Michal Simek
2013-09-18 16:11   ` Joe Perches
2013-09-19 10:01     ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 16:26       ` Alan Tull
2013-09-18 19:02   ` Dinh Nguyen
2013-09-19 11:53     ` Michal Simek
2013-09-18 19:15   ` Jason Cooper
2013-09-18 20:32     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-09-18 21:17       ` Alan Tull
2013-09-19 10:08         ` Pavel Machek
2013-09-19 11:02           ` Michal Simek
2013-09-20 20:55             ` Alan Tull
2013-09-24 15:55               ` Alan Tull
2013-09-24 15:58                 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-24 16:22                   ` Alan Tull
2013-09-24 22:18                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-09-25 13:55                       ` Yves Vandervennet
2013-09-25 14:51                         ` Michal Simek
2013-09-25 18:50                       ` Alan Tull
2013-09-24 22:54           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-09-25 10:41             ` Michal Simek
2013-09-25 12:00             ` Pavel Machek
2013-09-25 14:27               ` Philip Balister
2013-09-25 14:43                 ` Michal Simek [this message]
2013-09-25 19:21                   ` Alan Tull
2013-09-19 10:55         ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 11:17           ` Pavel Machek
2013-09-19 11:22             ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 12:52               ` /sys rules " Pavel Machek
2013-09-19 14:06                 ` Greg KH
2013-09-19 14:10                   ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 14:18                     ` Greg KH
2013-09-19 15:14                       ` Alan Tull
2013-09-19 14:20                     ` Jason Cooper
2013-09-19 14:37                       ` Greg KH
2013-09-19 22:48                         ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]           ` <CADuitaA3PLaOgmqXzfMdMDaXg7G6bT-DufjcuhtWfvaoWRj__Q@mail.gmail.com>
2013-09-19 15:14             ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 15:18           ` Yves Vandervennet
2013-09-19 17:28             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-09-23 13:10               ` Michal Simek
2013-09-23 17:10                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-09-25 10:48                   ` Michal Simek
2013-09-23 13:02             ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 10:03       ` Pavel Machek
2013-09-19 10:45       ` Michal Simek
2013-09-27 13:31       ` Michal Simek
2013-09-30 17:12         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-01 15:59           ` Michal Simek
2013-09-18 23:45   ` Ryan Mallon
2013-09-19 11:37     ` Michal Simek

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