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From: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Lin Ming <minggr@gmail.com>,
	Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lkp@01.org, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: increased vmap_area_lock contentions on "n_tty: Move buffers into n_tty_data"
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:22:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52446D40.9040504@hurleysoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130926153208.GN18242@two.firstfloor.org>

On 09/26/2013 11:32 AM, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 07:52:23AM -0400, Peter Hurley wrote:
>> On 09/25/2013 11:20 PM, Andi Kleen wrote:
>>> Lin Ming <minggr@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>> Would you like below patch?
>>>
>>> The loop body keeps rather complex state. It could easily
>>> get confused by parallel RCU changes.
>>>
>>> So if the list changes in parallel you may suddenly
>>> report very bogus values, as the va_start - prev_end
>>> computation may be bogus.
>>>
>>> Perhaps it's ok (may report bogus gaps), but it seems a bit risky.
>>
>> I don't understand how the computed gap would be bogus; there
>> _was_ a list state in which that particular gap existed. The fact
>
> It could change any time as you don't have an atomic view
> of vm_end / vm_start. It is valid to change the fields
> with the lock held.

va_start and va_end are constant for the lifetime of their vmap_area
(if it's accessible by traversing the vmap_area_list), so it is
not possible for an rcu-based list traversal to see different
values of these individual fields than the spin-locked version.

In addition, for the rcu-based traversal to have arrived at any given
vmap_area requires that the previous vmap_area was its adjacent
lower range at the instant in time when the list cursor was advanced;
again, this is no different than if the spin-locked version had
happened to begin at that same instant.

Regards,
Peter Hurley




  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-26 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-13  0:51 increased vmap_area_lock contentions on "n_tty: Move buffers into n_tty_data" Fengguang Wu
2013-09-13  1:09 ` Fengguang Wu
2013-09-17 15:34   ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-17 23:22     ` Fengguang Wu
2013-09-18  0:22       ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-25  9:04         ` Lin Ming
2013-09-25 11:30           ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-25 14:53             ` Lin Ming
2013-09-25 16:02             ` Lin Ming
2013-09-26  3:20               ` Andi Kleen
2013-09-26 11:52                 ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-26 15:32                   ` Andi Kleen
2013-09-26 17:22                     ` Peter Hurley [this message]
2013-09-26  7:33         ` Andrew Morton
2013-09-26 11:31           ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-26 15:04             ` Greg KH
2013-09-26 17:35               ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-26 18:05                 ` Andrew Morton
2013-09-26 21:42                   ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-26 21:58                     ` Andrew Morton
2013-09-26 22:21                       ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-18  0:49   ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-13  3:17 ` Greg KH
2013-09-13  3:38   ` Fengguang Wu
2013-09-13  3:44     ` Greg KH
2013-09-13  9:55       ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-13 12:34         ` Greg KH
2013-09-17  2:42     ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-17  2:56       ` Fengguang Wu

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