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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [tip:perf/core] perf/x86: Clean up cap_user_time* setting
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 10:22:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5252EDBE.7030805@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131006091054.GA4342@gmail.com>

On 10/06/2013 02:10 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>
>> I'm wanting to hear from the x86 people on why we have this absurd knob 
>> to begin with; but I'm tempted to simply disable all of perf if you 
>> touch it.
> 
> I'm fully with you, please zap the 'notsc' boot option - it's an ancient 
> relic, if any box is still broken with the TSC on we want to hear about it 
> and fix it!
> 

Perhaps better would be to make the notsc option do what other feature
removal options do and just remove the CPU feature flag.

Early on we had a bunch of ad hoc behaviors for feature disabling.  They
are harmful and just wrong... "not present" and "disabled" should be the
same thing in 99% of all cases (in the case of the TSC one may wish to
set the CR4 bit which disables the TSC from userspace, but I don't think
"notsc" ever did that.)

However:

pr_warn("Kernel compiled with CONFIG_X86_TSC, cannot disable TSC
completely\n");

That is a total "say what"?

At one point it even said:

printk(KERN_WARNING "notsc: Kernel compiled with CONFIG_X86_TSC, "	
"cannot disable TSC.\n");

CONFIG_X86_TSC is a baseline control option; we shouldn't key
functionality off of it.  It's fine to say notsc -> no tracing, but
making it a compile-time key makes me a bit uphappy.  We cut off 386,
but cutting of 486 at this point makes me nervous.

	-hpa


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-07 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-04 17:31 [tip:perf/core] perf/x86: Clean up cap_user_time* setting tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-04 18:31 ` Adrian Hunter
2013-10-04 18:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-06  9:10     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07  9:33       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-07 15:59         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-07 17:22       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-10-07 17:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-07 18:30           ` H. Peter Anvin

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