From: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: acme@ghostprotocols.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] perf record: mmap output file
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 08:04:15 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <525D4B5F.4090005@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131009055957.GA7664@gmail.com>
On 10/8/13 11:59 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> Here are some thoughts on how 'perf record' tracing performance could be
> further improved:
>
> 1)
>
> The use of non-temporal stores (MOVNTQ) to copy the ring-buffer into the
> file buffer makes sure the CPU cache is not trashed by the copying - which
> is the largest 'collateral damage' copying does.
>
> glibc does not appear to expose non-temporal instructions so it's going to
> be architecture dependent - but we could build the copy_user_nocache()
> function from the kernel proper (or copy it - we could even simplify it:
> knowing that only large and page aligned buffers are going to be copied
> with it).
>
> See how tools/perf/bench/mem-mem* does that to be able to measure the
> kernel's memcpy() and memset() function performance.
Forgot about this suggestion as well. Added to the list for v3.
>
> 2)
>
> Yet another method would be to avoid the copies altogether via the splice
> system-call - see:
>
> git grep splice kernel/trace/
>
> To make splice low-overhead we'd have to introduce a mode to not mmap the
> data part of the perf ring-buffer and splice the data straight from the
> perf fd into a temporary pipe and over from the pipe into the target file
> (or socket).
I looked into splice and it was not clear it would be a good match.
First, perf is setup to pull data from mmap's and there is not a 1:1
association between mmap's and fd's (fd_in for splice). Second and more
importantly, splice is also a system call and it would have to be
invoked for each mmap each trip through the loop -- just like write()
does today -- so it does not solve the feedback loop problem.
>
> OTOH non-temporal stores are incredibly simple and memory bandwidth is
> plenty on modern systems so I'd certainly try that route first.
I'll take a look.
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-15 14:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-09 3:26 [PATCH 0/3] perf trace enhancements David Ahern
2013-10-09 3:26 ` [PATCH 1/3] perf util: Add findnew method to intlist - v2 David Ahern
2013-10-15 5:32 ` [tip:perf/core] perf util: Add findnew method to intlist tip-bot for David Ahern
2013-10-09 3:26 ` [PATCH 2/3] perf trace: Add summary option to dump syscall statistics David Ahern
2013-10-09 13:16 ` Jiri Olsa
2013-10-15 5:32 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for David Ahern
2013-10-09 3:26 ` [PATCH 3/3] perf record: mmap output file David Ahern
2013-10-09 5:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-15 14:04 ` David Ahern [this message]
2013-10-15 14:32 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2013-10-15 14:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-15 15:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-15 15:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-15 15:30 ` David Ahern
2013-10-15 16:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-15 16:16 ` David Ahern
2013-10-16 7:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-15 16:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-09 7:14 ` Mike Galbraith
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