From: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>
To: Bob Liu <bob.liu@oracle.com>
Cc: Bob Liu <lliubbo@gmail.com>, <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
<xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] drivers: xen-selfballoon: consider slab pages
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 10:33:53 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5278C991.3040700@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52786640.90403@oracle.com>
On 05/11/13 03:30, Bob Liu wrote:
>
> On 11/05/2013 01:22 AM, David Vrabel wrote:
>> On 04/11/13 12:39, Bob Liu wrote:
>>> Currently the goal_page in xen-selfballon doesn't consider much about pages used
>>> in kernel space.
>>> A typical usage is slab pages, without consider slab pages the goal_page result
>>> may be too rough and lead extra memory pressure to guest os.
>>
>> Can you provide some real world figures where the calculatation got it
>> wrong? What was the resultant behavior? Swap death? OOM killer?
>>
>
> Sorry, I didn't run any testing I just think it's unreasonable while
> reading the source code.
I'm not keen on changes to heuristics without testing with real
workloads and a demonstration that it is better in practice.
> vm_memory_committed() only calculate pages which mapped to process
> address space, but the kernel itself(like block, fs and network
> subsystem) may occupy some memory. And it's possible that those
> subsystem may occupy a significant amount of memory in some situation.
>
> I'm afraid if we don't consider those kernel memory while calculating
> goal_pages, guest memory will be set lower than guest really needs.
>
>>> Signed-off-by: Bob Liu <bob.liu@oracle.com>
>>> ---
>>> drivers/xen/xen-selfballoon.c | 2 ++
>>> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/drivers/xen/xen-selfballoon.c b/drivers/xen/xen-selfballoon.c
>>> index 21e18c1..4814759 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/xen/xen-selfballoon.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/xen/xen-selfballoon.c
>>> @@ -191,6 +191,8 @@ static void selfballoon_process(struct work_struct *work)
>>> tgt_pages = cur_pages; /* default is no change */
>>> goal_pages = vm_memory_committed() +
>>> totalreserve_pages +
>>> + global_page_state(NR_SLAB_RECLAIMABLE) +
>>
>> Does SLAB_RECLAIMABLE want to be included here? Unless I'm
>> misunderstanding here, SLAB_RECLAIMABLE is effectively free.
>>
>
> SLAB_RECLAIMABLE isn't effectively free, it means the slab page is in
> used but can be reclaimed(freed) during memory pressure.
Similarly to the pages used for the page cache, I think the intention is
for the selfballoon_reserved_mb value to include this.
>>> + global_page_state(NR_SLAB_UNRECLAIMABLE) +
>>
>> This bit looks fine to me.
>>
>>> MB2PAGES(selfballoon_reserved_mb);
>>> #ifdef CONFIG_FRONTSWAP
>>> /* allow space for frontswap pages to be repatriated */
David
prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-05 10:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-04 12:39 [PATCH] drivers: xen-selfballoon: consider slab pages Bob Liu
2013-11-04 15:13 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-11-04 17:22 ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2013-11-05 3:30 ` Bob Liu
2013-11-05 10:33 ` David Vrabel [this message]
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