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From: Alexander Sverdlin <alexander.sverdlin@nsn.com>
To: ext Pantelis Antoniou <panto@antoniou-consulting.com>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@breakpoint.cc>
Cc: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Matt Porter <matt.porter@linaro.org>,
	Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>,
	Alison Chaiken <Alison_Chaiken@mentor.com>,
	Dinh Nguyen <dinh.linux@gmail.com>, Jan Lubbe <jluebbe@lasnet.de>,
	Michael Stickel <ms@mycable.de>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@gmail.com>,
	Alan Tull <delicious.quinoa@gmail.com>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Michael Bohan <mbohan@codeaurora.org>,
	Ionut Nicu <ioan.nicu.ext@nsn.com>,
	Michal Simek <monstr@monstr.eu>,
	Matt Ranostay <mranostay@gmail.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3 - V2] Introducing Device Tree Overlays
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 10:45:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <527B6156.1080000@nsn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C10E33D7-53F6-4A50-9B84-1149DDBDC46F@antoniou-consulting.com>

Hi!

On 06/11/13 20:08, ext Pantelis Antoniou wrote:
>>> The following patchset introduces Device Tree overlays, a method
>>> of dynamically altering the kernel's live Device Tree, along with
>>> a generic interface to use it in a board agnostic manner.
>>
>> In case this has been discussed and I missed it: Why are we doing this?
>> Isn't it possible to d o the overlay thingy in u-boot and pass a
>> complete device tree to the kernel?
>> Are you trying to do something like hotplug-PCI where the PCI card can
>> be replaced at runtime?
>>
> 
> It has been discussed.
> 
> We are doing it because
> 
> a) We tried to do it in u-boot and it has been a complete disaster.
> Regular users just can't handle bootloader updates.

There are buses we simply do not want to deal with in uboot, like SRIO, PCIe, everything-over-ethernet.
All of them are hot-pluggable. And yeah, device-tree processing in uboot is possible, but in Linux
it's way easier...
 
> b) It is similar to that. It was originally created for the beaglebone,
> which has a concept of capes (similar to Arduino shields).
> http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBone_Capes
> Turns out it's really useful to anyone doing reconfigurable hardware too,
> so that's why FPGA people are thinking of using it.
> 
> c) There are people that want to tinker with Linux based hardware boards
> but are not kernel developers. This gives them a way to do so without
> having to recompile the kernel and/or reboot while tinkering.
>  
>> Sebastian
> 
> Regards
> 
> -- Pantelis
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Best regards,
Alexander Sverdlin.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-07  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-05 18:41 [PATCH 0/3 - V2] Introducing Device Tree Overlays Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-05 18:41 ` [PATCH 1/3] OF: Introduce Device Tree resolve support Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-06 15:59   ` Alexander Sverdlin
2013-11-06 16:24     ` Ionut Nicu
2013-11-05 18:41 ` [PATCH 2/3] OF: Introduce DT overlay support Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-06 16:00   ` Alexander Sverdlin
2013-11-06 16:26     ` Ionut Nicu
2013-11-06 20:41   ` Dinh Nguyen
2013-11-07  7:10     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-05 18:41 ` [PATCH 3/3] DT: proc: Add runtime overlay interface in /proc Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-06  9:51   ` Ionut Nicu
2013-11-06  9:57     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-06 19:10   ` Rob Herring
2013-11-06 19:24     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-06 20:16       ` Matt Porter
2013-11-07  7:44         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-07 23:38   ` delicious quinoa
2013-11-08  7:12     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-05 19:06 ` [PATCH 0/3 - V2] Introducing Device Tree Overlays Guenter Roeck
2013-11-06  0:15   ` Dinh Nguyen
2013-11-06  8:53 ` Alexander Sverdlin
2013-11-06 19:01 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-11-06 19:08   ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-06 20:31     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-11-06 20:41       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-11-07  7:24         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-07  7:23       ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-07  9:45     ` Alexander Sverdlin [this message]
2013-11-06 19:30   ` Guenter Roeck
2013-11-06 20:38     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-11-06 21:17       ` Guenter Roeck
2013-11-07  7:27         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-07 19:25         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-11-07 20:06           ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-07 20:46             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-11-07 23:00               ` Guenter Roeck
2013-11-08  7:12                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-08  8:40                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-11-08  7:09               ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-11 17:04               ` Grant Likely
2013-11-12  8:16                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-07 22:51             ` Guenter Roeck
2013-11-07 22:22           ` Guenter Roeck

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