From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758209Ab3KHUck (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:32:40 -0500 Received: from mail-qc0-f179.google.com ([209.85.216.179]:59059 "EHLO mail-qc0-f179.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757629Ab3KHUch (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:32:37 -0500 Message-ID: <527D4A61.8020202@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 15:32:33 -0500 From: Ric Wheeler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christoph Hellwig , Ben Myers CC: elder@kernel.org, Mark Tinguely , Linus Torvalds , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , xfs@oss.sgi.com, Ric Wheeler Subject: Re: XFS leadership and a new co-maintainer candidate References: <20131107220208.GY1935@sgi.com> <527C0F64.3010906@sgi.com> <527C4B27.6020205@redhat.com> <527CC50D.4060905@redhat.com> <20131108180337.GO10553@sgi.com> <20131108193424.GA11052@infradead.org> In-Reply-To: <20131108193424.GA11052@infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 11/08/2013 02:34 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 12:03:37PM -0600, Ben Myers wrote: >> Mark is replacing Alex as my backup because Alex is really busy at >> Linaro and asked to be taken off awhile ago. The holiday season is >> coming up and I fully intend to go off my meds, turn in to Fonzy the >> bear, and eat my hat. I need someone to watch the shop while I'm off >> exploring on Mars. I trust Mark to do that because he is totally >> awesome. > > Doing this as an unilateral decisions is not something that will win you > a fan base. > > While we never had anything reassembling a democracy in Linux Kernel > development making decisions without even contacting the major > contributor is wrong, twice so if the maintainer is a relatively minor > contributor to start with. > > Just because it recent came up elsewhere I'd like to recite the > definition from Trond here again: > > http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-2012-discuss/2012-June/000066.html > > By many of the creative roles enlisted there it's clear that Dave should > be the maintainer. He's been the main contributor and chief architect > for XFS for many year, while the maintainers came and went at the mercy > of SGI. This is not meant to bad mouth either of you as I think you're > doing a reasonably good job compared to other maintainers, but at the > same time the direction is set by other people that have a much longer > involvement with the project, and having them officially in control > would help us forward a lot. It would also avoid having to spend > considerable resources to train every new generation of SGI maintainer. > > Coming to and end I would like to maintain Dave Chinner as the primary > XFS maintainer for all the work he has done as biggest contributor and > architect of XFS since longer than I can remember, and I would love to > retain Ben Myers as a co-maintainer for all the good work he has done > maintaining and reviewing patches since November 2011. This sounds like exactly the right thing to do to me as well, Ric > > I would also like to use this post as a public venue to condemn the > unilateral smokey backroom decisions about XFS maintainership that > SGI is trying to enforce on the community. > >