From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932183Ab3KHWIR (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Nov 2013 17:08:17 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:16863 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758118Ab3KHWIO (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Nov 2013 17:08:14 -0500 Message-ID: <527D60B1.7000901@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 17:07:45 -0500 From: Ric Wheeler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Myers CC: Linus Torvalds , Christoph Hellwig , xfs@oss.sgi.com, elder@kernel.org, Mark Tinguely , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: [PATCH] update xfs maintainers References: <20131107220208.GY1935@sgi.com> <527C0F64.3010906@sgi.com> <527C4B27.6020205@redhat.com> <527CC50D.4060905@redhat.com> <20131108180337.GO10553@sgi.com> <20131108193424.GA11052@infradead.org> <20131108204605.GA1935@sgi.com> <527D4E8D.3000109@redhat.com> <20131108220309.GB1935@sgi.com> In-Reply-To: <20131108220309.GB1935@sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 11/08/2013 05:03 PM, Ben Myers wrote: > Hey Ric, > > On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 03:50:21PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote: >> On 11/08/2013 03:46 PM, Ben Myers wrote: >>> Hey Christoph, >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 11:34:24AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote: >>>> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 12:03:37PM -0600, Ben Myers wrote: >>>>> Mark is replacing Alex as my backup because Alex is really busy at >>>>> Linaro and asked to be taken off awhile ago. The holiday season is >>>>> coming up and I fully intend to go off my meds, turn in to Fonzy the >>>>> bear, and eat my hat. I need someone to watch the shop while I'm off >>>>> exploring on Mars. I trust Mark to do that because he is totally >>>>> awesome. >>>> Doing this as an unilateral decisions is not something that will win you >>>> a fan base. >>> It's posted for review. >>> >>>> While we never had anything reassembling a democracy in Linux Kernel >>>> development making decisions without even contacting the major >>>> contributor is wrong, twice so if the maintainer is a relatively minor >>>> contributor to start with. >>>> >>>> Just because it recent came up elsewhere I'd like to recite the >>>> definition from Trond here again: >>>> >>>> http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-2012-discuss/2012-June/000066.html >>>> >>>> By many of the creative roles enlisted there it's clear that Dave should >>>> be the maintainer. He's been the main contributor and chief architect >>>> for XFS for many year, while the maintainers came and went at the mercy >>>> of SGI. This is not meant to bad mouth either of you as I think you're >>>> doing a reasonably good job compared to other maintainers, but at the >>>> same time the direction is set by other people that have a much longer >>>> involvement with the project, and having them officially in control >>>> would help us forward a lot. It would also avoid having to spend >>>> considerable resources to train every new generation of SGI maintainer. >>>> >>>> Coming to and end I would like to maintain Dave Chinner as the primary >>>> XFS maintainer for all the work he has done as biggest contributor and >>>> architect of XFS since longer than I can remember, and I would love to >>>> retain Ben Myers as a co-maintainer for all the good work he has done >>>> maintaining and reviewing patches since November 2011. >>> I think we're doing a decent job too. So thanks for that much at least. ;) >>>> I would also like to use this post as a public venue to condemn the >>>> unilateral smokey backroom decisions about XFS maintainership that SGI is >>>> trying to enforce on the community. >>> That really didn't happen Christoph. It's not in my tree or in a pull request. >>> >>> Linus, let me know what you want to do. I do think we're doing a fair job over >>> here, and (geez) I'm just trying to add Mark as my backup since Alex is too >>> busy. I know the RH people want more control, and that's understandable, but >>> they really don't need to replace me to get their code in. Ouch. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ben >> Christoph is not a Red Hat person. >> >> Jeff is from Oracle. >> >> This is not a Red Hat vs SGI thing, > Sorry if my read on that was wrong. I do appreciate the work and effort you and the SGI team put in but think that this will be a good way to keep the community happier and even more productive going forward. > >> Dave simply has earned the right >> to take on the formal leadership role of maintainer. > Then we're gonna need some Reviewed-bys. ;) Those should come from the developers, thanks! Ric > > From: Ben Myers > > xfs: update maintainers > > Add Dave as maintainer of XFS. > > Signed-off-by: Ben Myers > --- > MAINTAINERS | 2 +- > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) > > Index: b/MAINTAINERS > =================================================================== > --- a/MAINTAINERS 2013-11-08 15:20:18.935186245 -0600 > +++ b/MAINTAINERS 2013-11-08 15:22:50.685245977 -0600 > @@ -9387,8 +9387,8 @@ F: drivers/xen/*swiotlb* > > XFS FILESYSTEM > P: Silicon Graphics Inc > +M: Dave Chinner > M: Ben Myers > -M: Alex Elder > M: xfs@oss.sgi.com > L: xfs@oss.sgi.com > W: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs