From: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
To: Ben Myers <bpm@sgi.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
xfs@oss.sgi.com, elder@kernel.org,
Mark Tinguely <tinguely@sgi.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] update xfs maintainers
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 18:32:33 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <527D7491.2030006@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131108221744.GQ10553@sgi.com>
On 11/08/2013 05:17 PM, Ben Myers wrote:
> Hey Ric,
>
> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 05:07:45PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote:
>> On 11/08/2013 05:03 PM, Ben Myers wrote:
>>> Hey Ric,
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 03:50:21PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote:
>>>> On 11/08/2013 03:46 PM, Ben Myers wrote:
>>>>> Hey Christoph,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 11:34:24AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 12:03:37PM -0600, Ben Myers wrote:
>>>>>>> Mark is replacing Alex as my backup because Alex is really busy at
>>>>>>> Linaro and asked to be taken off awhile ago. The holiday season is
>>>>>>> coming up and I fully intend to go off my meds, turn in to Fonzy the
>>>>>>> bear, and eat my hat. I need someone to watch the shop while I'm off
>>>>>>> exploring on Mars. I trust Mark to do that because he is totally
>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>> Doing this as an unilateral decisions is not something that will win you
>>>>>> a fan base.
>>>>> It's posted for review.
>>>>>
>>>>>> While we never had anything reassembling a democracy in Linux Kernel
>>>>>> development making decisions without even contacting the major
>>>>>> contributor is wrong, twice so if the maintainer is a relatively minor
>>>>>> contributor to start with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just because it recent came up elsewhere I'd like to recite the
>>>>>> definition from Trond here again:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-2012-discuss/2012-June/000066.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By many of the creative roles enlisted there it's clear that Dave should
>>>>>> be the maintainer. He's been the main contributor and chief architect
>>>>>> for XFS for many year, while the maintainers came and went at the mercy
>>>>>> of SGI. This is not meant to bad mouth either of you as I think you're
>>>>>> doing a reasonably good job compared to other maintainers, but at the
>>>>>> same time the direction is set by other people that have a much longer
>>>>>> involvement with the project, and having them officially in control
>>>>>> would help us forward a lot. It would also avoid having to spend
>>>>>> considerable resources to train every new generation of SGI maintainer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Coming to and end I would like to maintain Dave Chinner as the primary
>>>>>> XFS maintainer for all the work he has done as biggest contributor and
>>>>>> architect of XFS since longer than I can remember, and I would love to
>>>>>> retain Ben Myers as a co-maintainer for all the good work he has done
>>>>>> maintaining and reviewing patches since November 2011.
>>>>> I think we're doing a decent job too. So thanks for that much at least. ;)
>>>>>> I would also like to use this post as a public venue to condemn the
>>>>>> unilateral smokey backroom decisions about XFS maintainership that SGI is
>>>>>> trying to enforce on the community.
>>>>> That really didn't happen Christoph. It's not in my tree or in a pull request.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linus, let me know what you want to do. I do think we're doing a fair job over
>>>>> here, and (geez) I'm just trying to add Mark as my backup since Alex is too
>>>>> busy. I know the RH people want more control, and that's understandable, but
>>>>> they really don't need to replace me to get their code in. Ouch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Ben
>>>> Christoph is not a Red Hat person.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff is from Oracle.
>>>>
>>>> This is not a Red Hat vs SGI thing,
>>> Sorry if my read on that was wrong.
>> I do appreciate the work and effort you and the SGI team put in but
>> think that this will be a good way to keep the community happier and
>> even more productive going forward.
>>
>>>> Dave simply has earned the right
>>>> to take on the formal leadership role of maintainer.
>>> Then we're gonna need some Reviewed-bys. ;)
>> Those should come from the developers, thanks!
> I actually do need your Reviewed-by. We'll try and get this one in 3.13. ;)
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
Happy to do that - I do think that Dave mostly posts from his redhat.com
account, but he can comment once he gets back online.
Reviewed-by: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
>
>>> From: Ben Myers <bpm@sgi.com>
>>>
>>> xfs: update maintainers
>>>
>>> Add Dave as maintainer of XFS.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Ben Myers <bpm@sgi.com>
>>> ---
>>> MAINTAINERS | 2 +-
>>> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> Index: b/MAINTAINERS
>>> ===================================================================
>>> --- a/MAINTAINERS 2013-11-08 15:20:18.935186245 -0600
>>> +++ b/MAINTAINERS 2013-11-08 15:22:50.685245977 -0600
>>> @@ -9387,8 +9387,8 @@ F: drivers/xen/*swiotlb*
>>> XFS FILESYSTEM
>>> P: Silicon Graphics Inc
>>> +M: Dave Chinner <dchinner@fromorbit.com>
>>> M: Ben Myers <bpm@sgi.com>
>>> -M: Alex Elder <elder@kernel.org>
>>> M: xfs@oss.sgi.com
>>> L: xfs@oss.sgi.com
>>> W: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-08 23:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <527C0F64.3010906@sgi.com>
[not found] ` <527C4B27.6020205@redhat.com>
2013-11-08 11:03 ` XFS leadership and a new co-maintainer candidate Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 18:03 ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 18:09 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 19:45 ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 19:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-08 20:32 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 20:46 ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 20:50 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 22:03 ` [PATCH] update xfs maintainers Ben Myers
2013-11-08 22:07 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 22:17 ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 23:32 ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2013-11-09 23:17 ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 22:59 ` Zhi Yong Wu
2013-11-08 23:44 ` NeilBrown
2013-11-09 23:51 ` Ben Myers
2013-11-10 0:30 ` Ben Myers
2013-11-10 3:13 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-10 23:32 ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-10 23:12 ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-11 3:49 ` Ben Myers
2013-11-14 6:22 ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-15 0:33 ` Ben Myers
2013-11-14 18:25 ` Alex Elder
2013-11-12 17:32 ` XFS leadership and a new co-maintainer candidate Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-12 19:30 ` Ben Myers
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