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From: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jolsa@redhat.com,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] perf record: mmap output file - v5
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 07:29:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52838CC2.2010301@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131113115021.GA15469@gmail.com>

On 11/13/13, 4:50 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>>> one option here is not allow page faults and system wide system
>>>> calls. system wide tracing needs mmap; page faults for a task can
>>>> use write(). I left that option in case something like this came up.
>>>
>>> So maybe splice() sounds like the right long term solution after all?
>>> :-/
>>
>> Right until you put a tracepoint (kprobe) somewhere in whatever function
>> is used to transfer a single page into/from a splice pipe.
>
> That ought to be a far less common occurance than tracing page faults
> though.
>
>> You can always screw yourself over using this stuff, no exceptions.
>
> Granted, as the many notrace markings demonstrate this stuff really wants
> to observe itself observing itself all the time! :)

perf can have options for output -- write(), mmap(), splice() -- and 
some logic of when not to use it:

1. don't use write for system wide tracing

2. don't use mmap for page fault tracing

3. don't use splice for .... (need a splice implementation)

and allow the user to override.

David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-13 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-12 14:46 [PATCH 0/5] perf record: mmap output file - v5 David Ahern
2013-11-12 14:46 ` [PATCH 1/5] perf record: Fix segfault with --no-mmap-pages David Ahern
2013-11-12 21:57   ` [tip:perf/urgent] " tip-bot for David Ahern
2013-11-12 14:46 ` [PATCH 2/5] perf tool: Round mmap pages to power 2 - v2 David Ahern
2013-11-12 21:57   ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf evlist: " tip-bot for David Ahern
2013-11-12 14:46 ` [PATCH 3/5] perf tool: Refactor mmap_pages parsing David Ahern
2013-11-12 21:57   ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf evlist: " tip-bot for David Ahern
2013-11-12 14:46 ` [PATCH 4/5] perf record: mmap output file - v5 David Ahern
2013-11-12 14:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-12 15:07     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2013-11-12 15:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-12 15:36         ` David Ahern
2013-11-12 21:11           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-13 11:34             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-13 11:50               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-13 12:16                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-13 14:29                 ` David Ahern [this message]
2013-11-15 16:41               ` David Ahern
2013-11-18  9:01                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-18  9:40                   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-19  0:24                     ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-19  0:34                       ` David Ahern
2013-11-19  1:48                         ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-19  2:02                         ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-19  2:13                         ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-19  2:17                           ` David Ahern
2013-11-19  2:30                             ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-19  2:33                               ` David Ahern
2013-11-19  2:36                                 ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-19  6:58                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-19 11:48                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-19 11:49                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-19 13:13                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-19 13:45                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-19 15:31                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-19 16:09                                             ` David Ahern
2013-11-19 16:14                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-19 12:08                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-19  6:54                       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-12 14:46 ` [PATCH 5/5] perf record: Handle out of space failures writing data with mmap David Ahern
2013-11-12 21:19   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-13 14:33     ` David Ahern

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