From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Morten Rasmussen <Morten.Rasmussen@arm.com>,
Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>,
Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
"alex.shi@intel.com" <alex.shi@intel.com>,
Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linaro-kernel <linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org>,
"len.brown@intel.com" <len.brown@intel.com>,
"l.majewski@samsung.com" <l.majewski@samsung.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v5 00/14] sched: packing tasks
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:13:57 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5283A545.4040406@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42638CC1-ACC7-4330-A4F4-D78C88BE8155@arm.com>
On 11/12/2013 3:14 PM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On 12 Nov 2013, at 16:48, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>> On 11/11/2013 10:18 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>>> The ordering is based on the actual C-state, so a simple way is to wake
>>> up the CPU in the shallowest C-state. With asymmetric configurations
>>> (big.LITTLE) we have different costs for the same C-state, so this would
>>> come in handy.
>>
>> btw I was considering something else; in practice CPUs will be in the deepest state..
>> ... at which point I was going to go with some other metrics of what is best from a platform level
>
> I agree, other metrics are needed. The problem is that we currently
> only have (relatively, guessed from the target residency) the cost of
> transition from a C-state to a P-state (for the latter, not sure which).
> But we don’t know what the power (saving) on that C-state is nor the one
> at a P-state (and vendors reluctant to provide such information). So the
> best the scheduler can do is optimise the wake-up cost and blindly assume
> that deeper C-state on a CPU is more efficient than lower P-states on two
> other CPUs (or the other way around).
for picking the cpu to wake on there are also low level physical kind of things
we'd want to take into account on the intel side.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-13 16:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-18 11:52 [RFC][PATCH v5 00/14] sched: packing tasks Vincent Guittot
2013-10-18 11:52 ` [RFC][PATCH v5 01/14] sched: add a new arch_sd_local_flags for sched_domain init Vincent Guittot
2013-11-05 14:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-05 14:57 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-11-05 22:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 10:10 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-11-06 13:53 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2013-11-06 14:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-12 17:43 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2013-11-12 18:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-13 15:47 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2013-11-13 16:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-14 10:49 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-11-14 12:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-18 13:13 ` [RFC] sched: CPU topology try Vincent Guittot
2013-12-23 17:22 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2014-01-06 13:41 ` Vincent Guittot
2014-01-06 16:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-07 8:32 ` Vincent Guittot
2014-01-07 13:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-07 14:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-07 15:41 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 20:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-08 8:32 ` Alex Shi
2014-01-08 8:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-08 12:52 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-08 13:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-08 13:33 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-08 12:35 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-08 12:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-08 12:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-08 13:27 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-08 13:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-08 13:45 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 14:11 ` Vincent Guittot
2014-01-07 15:37 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-08 8:37 ` Alex Shi
2014-01-06 16:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-06 17:15 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 9:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-01 5:00 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-01-06 16:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-06 16:37 ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-01-06 16:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-06 16:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-06 17:13 ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-01-07 12:40 ` Vincent Guittot
2014-01-06 16:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-07 8:22 ` Vincent Guittot
2014-01-07 9:40 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-01-07 9:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-07 10:39 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-01-07 11:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-07 16:31 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-01-07 11:20 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 12:31 ` Vincent Guittot
2014-01-07 16:51 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-10-18 11:52 ` [RFC][PATCH v5 03/14] sched: define pack buddy CPUs Vincent Guittot
2013-10-18 11:52 ` [RFC][PATCH v5 04/14] sched: do load balance only with packing cpus Vincent Guittot
2013-10-18 11:52 ` [RFC][PATCH v5 05/14] sched: add a packing level knob Vincent Guittot
2013-11-12 10:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-12 10:44 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-11-12 10:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-12 10:57 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-10-18 11:52 ` [RFC][PATCH v5 06/14] sched: create a new field with available capacity Vincent Guittot
2013-11-12 10:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-12 11:05 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-10-18 11:52 ` [RFC][PATCH v5 07/14] sched: get CPU's activity statistic Vincent Guittot
2013-11-12 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-12 10:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-18 11:52 ` [RFC][PATCH v5 08/14] sched: move load idx selection in find_idlest_group Vincent Guittot
2013-11-12 10:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-27 14:10 ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Move " tip-bot for Vincent Guittot
2013-10-18 11:52 ` [RFC][PATCH v5 09/14] sched: update the packing cpu list Vincent Guittot
2013-10-18 11:52 ` [RFC][PATCH v5 10/14] sched: init this_load to max in find_idlest_group Vincent Guittot
2013-10-18 11:52 ` [RFC][PATCH v5 11/14] sched: add a SCHED_PACKING_TASKS config Vincent Guittot
2013-10-18 11:52 ` [RFC][PATCH v5 12/14] sched: create a statistic structure Vincent Guittot
2013-10-18 11:52 ` [RFC][PATCH v5 13/14] sched: differantiate idle cpu Vincent Guittot
2013-10-18 11:52 ` [RFC][PATCH v5 14/14] cpuidle: set the current wake up latency Vincent Guittot
2013-11-11 11:33 ` [RFC][PATCH v5 00/14] sched: packing tasks Catalin Marinas
2013-11-11 16:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-11 16:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-11-11 18:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-11 18:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-11-12 12:06 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-11-12 16:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-11-12 23:14 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-13 16:13 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2013-11-13 16:45 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-13 17:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-11-12 17:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-25 18:55 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-11-11 16:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-11 16:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-11-12 10:36 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-11-11 16:54 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-11-11 18:31 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-11 19:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-11-11 22:43 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-11-11 23:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-12 12:35 ` Vincent Guittot
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