From: Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"benh@kernel.crashing.org" <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
"paulus@samba.org" <paulus@samba.org>,
"ralf@linux-mips.org" <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] panic: Make panic_timeout configurable
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 16:16:46 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <528A83BE.3020105@akamai.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131113113647.GC9654@gmail.com>
On 11/13/2013 06:36 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok - we could have a set function, to unexport the var from the arch
>> init as:
>>
>> void set_panic_timeout_early(int timeout, int arch_default_timeout)
>> {
>> if (panic_timeout == arch_default_timeout)
>> panic_timeout = timeout;
>> }
>
>>
>> That would work for the arch initialization, although we have a small
>> window b/w initial boot and arch_init() where we have the wrong value in
>> 2 cases (b/c its changing) - but that can be fixed now by manually
>> overriding the .config setting now, if we can't consolidate to 1 setting
>> per-arch. Maybe the arch maintainers can comment? But i think its still
>> an improvement...
>
> Yeah.
>
>> We'll also need an accessor functions for usages in:
>> arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mcheck/mce.c and ./drivers/acpi/apei/ghes.c.
>
> Correct. I was actually surprised at seeing those write accesses - with
> global variables it's easy to slip in such usage without people being
> fully aware of it. Accessors add a (minimal) barrier against such usage.
>
>> Finally, kernel/sysctl.c, directly accesses panic timeout. I think the
>> command line "panic_timeout=" and sysctl settings continue to be
>> complete overwrites? So we can add a set function that just does an
>> overwrite for these cases.
>
> Yeah, whatever the user sets most recently always dominates over older
> decisions. From the UI side the ordering is:
>
> - generic kernel default
> - arch default
> - kernel build .config default
> - panic_timeout= setting
> - sysctl value
>
> All but the first value is optional, and whichever of the optional value
> settings comes last dominates and takes precedence over earlier ones.
>
> Also, because the interaction between different configuration points is
> complex it might make sense to organize it a bit. At the risk of slightly
> overdesigning it, instead of tracking a single value default-value-based
> decisions in set_panic_timeout_early(), we could actually track which of
> those options were taken, by tracking the 5 values:
>
> int panic_timeout_generic = 0;
> int panic_timeout_arch = -1;
> int panic_timeout_build = -1;
> int panic_timeout_boot = -1;
> int panic_timeout_sysctl = -1;
>
> That fits on a single cacheline. Going from last towards first taking the
> the first one that isn't -1:
>
> static int panic_timeout(void)
> {
> if (panic_timeout_sysctl != -1)
> return panic_timeout_sysctl;
> if (panic_timeout_boot != -1)
> return panic_timeout_boot;
> if (panic_timeout_build != -1)
> return panic_timeout_build;
> if (panic_timeout_arch != -1)
> return panic_timeout_arch;
>
> return panic_timeout_generic;
> }
>
> And the accessors are trivial and obvious and there's no ugly intermixing
> between them. The priority between the different configurtion points of
> setting these values is thus obvious and straightforward as well.
>
> This might sound more complex than it really is - but once the scheme is
> done in such a fashion it will IMHO behave pretty intuitively to users and
> won't produce surprises if some default value happens to be the one that
> the user configures.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ingo
Hi,
I've re-posted a v2 (in a separate thread), that addresses the concerns about having
arch specific code polluting common code.
However, I didn't implement the full scheme suggested above for mainly 2 reasons:
1) Cases 1-3: generic kernel default, arch default, and kernel build .config default
cases, really could be simplified to 1 case, if mips, powerpc could agree on 1 default
value. In any case, there are only 2 exceptions here to deal with these cases.
2) The concurrency of accesses to panic_timeout doesn't exist. I initially thought there
was potentially a lot of concurrency, but I don't think that is the case. For example,
the driver uses are all in panic paths, and the sysfs vs. command-line should be well
ordered already.
So I sort of felt the above design was a bit much, but I'll re-visit it if you
still feel it provides a real benefit here. My main concern is the ability to build
in the timeout, which would be the case either way.
Thanks,
-Jason
prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-18 21:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-08 20:43 [PATCH] panic: Make panic_timeout configurable Jason Baron
2013-11-11 9:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-13 2:10 ` Jason Baron
2013-11-13 11:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-18 21:16 ` Jason Baron [this message]
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