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From: Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>
To: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>, Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@linaro.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"cpufreq@vger.kernel.org" <cpufreq@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Carlos Hernandez <ceh@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cpufreq: cpufreq-cpu0: Use a sane boot frequency when booting with a mismatched bootloader configuration
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:16:33 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <528B72C1.5060006@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKohpok_yRZr-XQEC+w8PLN+ZyW83uijFyZrDM1LB8G2X4h-fg@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/18/2013 09:46 PM, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> On 19 November 2013 07:51, Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@linaro.org> wrote:
>> No, I did not say that.  IMO, when cpufreq-cpu0 sees a mismatch, it has
>> no way to know or assume which one is correct and which is incorrect.
>> The best thing it can do is to fail out without changing anything about
>> running frequency and voltage.
> 
> Not specifically on this patch, but this is what I feel about this issue:
> 
> - As we are discussing on the other thread, there is scope of adding
> "unknown" field in tables so that people would know that they were
> running out of table freq at some point..

Consider something like userspace governor selection -> the device at
boot will probably remain in an unknown/"invalid" configuration till
the very first transition attempt. I am less worried about the stats
than not following what the hardware description is (as stated by
device tree/other forms).

I staunchly disagree that at a point of mismatch detection, we just
refuse to load up cpufreq governor -even though we know from device
tree/other alternative entries what the hardware behavior is supposed
to be. To refuse to loadup to a known configuration is considering the
"valid configuration" data provided to the driver is wrong - an
equivalent(considering the i2c example) is that if i2c driver sees bus
configured for 3.4MHz and was asked to use 100KHz, it just refuses to
load up!

> - This is a common problem for all drivers/platforms and not only
> cpufreq-cpu0, so the solution has to be generic and not driver
> specific.. So, atleast I don't want to get this patch in at any cost,
> unless there is a generic solution present..
> - There are non-dt drivers as well, and so freq table is present
> with the kernel and we can't support all frequencies that bootloader
> may end up with..
The above two are fair comments -> but that implies that policy->cur
population should no longer be the responsibility of cpufreq drivers
and be the responsibility of cpufreq core. are we stating we want to
move that to cpufreq core?

-- 
Regards,
Nishanth Menon

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-19 14:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-16  2:22 [PATCH] cpufreq: cpufreq-cpu0: Use a sane boot frequency when booting with a mismatched bootloader configuration Nishanth Menon
2013-11-16 13:44 ` Shawn Guo
2013-11-17  4:02   ` Viresh Kumar
2013-11-18 14:45     ` Nishanth Menon
2013-11-18 15:57       ` Shawn Guo
2013-11-18 16:41         ` Nishanth Menon
2013-11-19  2:21           ` Shawn Guo
2013-11-19  3:46             ` Viresh Kumar
2013-11-19 14:16               ` Nishanth Menon [this message]
2013-11-19 14:26                 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-11-19 14:59                   ` Nishanth Menon
2013-11-19 15:32                     ` Viresh Kumar
2013-11-19 15:48                       ` Nishanth Menon
2013-11-19 17:10                         ` Viresh Kumar
2013-11-19 17:43                           ` Nishanth Menon
2013-11-20  5:24                             ` viresh kumar
2013-11-20 14:59                               ` Nishanth Menon
2013-11-21  7:41                                 ` Viresh Kumar

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