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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vitaly Mayatskikh <v.mayatskih@gmail.com>,
	"Murty, Ravi" <ravi.murty@intel.com>,
	neilb@suse.de
Subject: Re: copy_from_user_*() and buffer zeroing
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:28:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <529520AB.2020407@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131126135454.b5e9597a998509f1ab43cee4@linux-foundation.org>

On 11/26/2013 01:54 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> Nine years ago:
> 
> commit 7079f897164cb14f616c785d3d01629fd6a97719
> Author: mingo <mingo>
> Date:   Fri Aug 27 17:33:18 2004 +0000
> 
>     [PATCH] Add a few might_sleep() checks
>     
>     Add a whole bunch more might_sleep() checks.  We also enable might_sleep()
>     checking in copy_*_user().  This was non-trivial because of the "copy_*_user()
>     in atomic regions" trick would generate false positives.  Fix that up by
>     adding a new __copy_*_user_inatomic(), which avoids the might_sleep() check.
>     
>     Only i386 is supported in this patch.
> 
> 
> I can't think of any reason why __copy_from_user_inatomic() should be
> non-zeroing.  But maybe I'm missing something - this would pretty
> easily permit uninitialised data to appear in pagecache and someone
> surely would have noticed..
> 

Yes, and the might_sleep() check is indeed bypassed.

However, the non-zeroing bit is currently motivated by the following
comment:

/**
 * __copy_from_user: - Copy a block of data from user space, with less
checking.
 * @to:   Destination address, in kernel space.
 * @from: Source address, in user space.
 * @n:    Number of bytes to copy.
 *
 * Context: User context only.  This function may sleep.
 *
 * Copy data from user space to kernel space.  Caller must check
 * the specified block with access_ok() before calling this function.
 *
 * Returns number of bytes that could not be copied.
 * On success, this will be zero.
 *
 * If some data could not be copied, this function will pad the copied
 * data to the requested size using zero bytes.
 *
 * An alternate version - __copy_from_user_inatomic() - may be called from
 * atomic context and will fail rather than sleep.  In this case the
 * uncopied bytes will *NOT* be padded with zeros.  See fs/filemap.h
 * for explanation of why this is needed.
 */

This comment is only present in the 32-bit code.  fs/filemap.h of course
no longer exists, however, the original commit seems to be
01408c4939479ec46c15aa7ef6e2406be50eeeca which puts a comment in the
(now defunct mm/filemap.h).

I have to say I don't follow the explanation in that patch.  It seems
like if you're concurrently reading a buffer being written you should
expect to get any kind of mismash...

Neil, is this still an issue?

	-hpa





  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-26 22:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-26 21:07 copy_from_user_*() and buffer zeroing H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-26 21:54 ` Andrew Morton
2013-11-26 22:28   ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-11-26 23:04     ` NeilBrown
2013-11-26 23:08       ` H. Peter Anvin

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