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From: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>
Cc: "Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Tom Zanussi" <tom.zanussi@linux.intel.com>,
	"Jovi Zhangwei" <jovi.zhangwei@gmail.com>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo" <acme@infradead.org>,
	"Tom Zanussi" <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
	"Pekka Enberg" <penberg@iki.fi>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Arjan van de Ven" <arjan@infradead.org>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@redhat.com>,
	namhyung@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH tip 0/5] tracing filters with BPF
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 10:13:37 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <529E81C1.2070208@hitachi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMEtUuw_6dCuZd=1fQxNYrZid67n7MRYBT16qBkgR_JxOPkfdg@mail.gmail.com>

(2013/12/04 3:26), Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2013 10:16:55 +0100
>> Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> So, to do the math:
>>>
>>>    tracing               'all' overhead:   95 nsecs per event
>>>    tracing 'eth5 + old filter' overhead:  157 nsecs per event
>>>    tracing 'eth5 + BPF filter' overhead:   54 nsecs per event
>>>
>>> So via BPF and a fairly trivial filter, we are able to reduce tracing
>>> overhead for real - while old-style filters.
>>
>> Yep, seems that BPF can do what I wasn't able to do with the normal
>> filters. Although, I haven't looked at the code yet, I'm assuming that
>> the BPF works on the parameters passed into the trace event. The normal
>> filters can only process the results of the trace (what's being
>> recorded) not the parameters of the trace event itself. To get what's
>> recorded, we need to write to the buffer first, and then we decided if
>> we want to keep the event or not and discard the event from the buffer
>> if we do not.
>>
>> That method does not reduce overhead at all, and only adds to it, as
>> Alexei's tests have shown. The purpose of the filter was not to reduce
>> overhead, but to reduce filling the buffer with needless data.
> 
> Precisely.
> Assumption is that filters will filter out majority of the events.
> So filter takes pt_regs as input, has to interpret them and call
> bpf_trace_printk
> if it really wants to store something for the human to see.
> We can extend bpf trace filters to return true/false to indicate
> whether TP_printk-format
> specified as part of the event should be printed as well, but imo
> that's unnecessary.
> When I was using bpf filters to debug networking bits I didn't need
> that printk format of the event. I only used event as an entry point,
> filtering out things and printing different fields vs initial event.
> More like what developers do when they sprinkle
> trace_printk/dump_stack through the code while debugging.
> 
> the only inconvenience so far is to know how parameters are getting
> into registers.
> on x86-64, arg1 is in rdi, arg2 is in rsi,... I want to improve that
> after first step is done.

Actually, that part is done by the perf-probe and ftrace dynamic events
(kernel/trace/trace_probe.c). I think this generic BPF is good for
re-implementing fetch methods. :)

Thank you,

-- 
Masami HIRAMATSU
IT Management Research Dept. Linux Technology Center
Hitachi, Ltd., Yokohama Research Laboratory
E-mail: masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com



  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-04  1:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-03  4:28 [RFC PATCH tip 0/5] tracing filters with BPF Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-03  4:28 ` [RFC PATCH tip 1/5] Extended BPF core framework Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-03  4:28 ` [RFC PATCH tip 2/5] Extended BPF JIT for x86-64 Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-03  4:28 ` [RFC PATCH tip 3/5] Extended BPF (64-bit BPF) design document Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-03 17:01   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-03 19:59     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-03 20:41       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2013-12-03 21:31         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-04  9:24           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-03  4:28 ` [RFC PATCH tip 4/5] use BPF in tracing filters Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-04  0:48   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-04  1:11     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-12-05  0:05       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-05  5:11         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-06  8:43           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-06 10:05             ` Jovi Zhangwei
2013-12-06 23:48               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-08 18:22                 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2013-12-09 10:12                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-03  4:28 ` [RFC PATCH tip 5/5] tracing filter examples in BPF Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-04  0:35   ` Jonathan Corbet
2013-12-04  1:21     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-03  9:16 ` [RFC PATCH tip 0/5] tracing filters with BPF Ingo Molnar
2013-12-03 15:33   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-12-03 18:26     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-04  1:13       ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2013-12-09  7:29         ` Namhyung Kim
2013-12-09  9:51           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-03 18:06   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-04  9:34     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-04 17:36       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-05 10:38         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-06  5:43           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-03 10:34 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-04  0:01 ` Andi Kleen
2013-12-04  3:09   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-05  4:40     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-05 10:41       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-05 13:46         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-12-05 22:36           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-05 23:37             ` Steven Rostedt
2013-12-06  4:49               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-10 15:47                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-11  2:32                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-11  3:35                     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-12  2:48                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-05 16:11       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2013-12-05 19:43         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-06  0:14       ` Andi Kleen
2013-12-06  1:10         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-06  1:20           ` Andi Kleen
2013-12-06  1:28             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-06 21:43               ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2013-12-06  5:16             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-06 23:54               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-07  1:01                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-06  5:46             ` Jovi Zhangwei
2013-12-07  1:12             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2013-12-07 16:53               ` Jovi Zhangwei
2013-12-06  5:19       ` Jovi Zhangwei
2013-12-06 23:58         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-07 16:21           ` Jovi Zhangwei
2013-12-09  4:59             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-06  6:17       ` Jovi Zhangwei
2013-12-05 16:31   ` Frank Ch. Eigler

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