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From: Ryan Mallon <rmallon@gmail.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	vegard.nossum@oracle.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tommi Rantala <tt.rantala@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] Known exploit detection
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 10:50:32 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52AA4BC8.1080207@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jKmrtgH8tAGuYd9-gh5-EXqAsPy+XoRMc9DNLDngNH2ug@mail.gmail.com>

On 13/12/13 08:13, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 05:52:24PM +0100, vegard.nossum@oracle.com wrote:
>>> From: Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>
>>>
>>> The idea is simple -- since different kernel versions are vulnerable to
>>> different root exploits, hackers most likely try multiple exploits before
>>> they actually succeed.
> 
> I like this idea. It serves a few purposes, not the least of which is
> very clearly marking in code where we've had problems, regardless of
> the fact that it reports badness to the system owner. And I think
> getting any additional notifications about bad behavior is a nice idea
> too.

Though, if an attacker is running through a series of exploits, and one
eventually succeeds then the first thing to do would be to clean traces
of the _exploit() notifications from the syslog. Since running through a
series of exploits is pretty quick, this can probably all be done before
the sysadmin ever notices.

The _exploit() notifications could also be used to spam the syslogs.
Although they are individually ratelimited, if there are enough
_exploit() markers in the kernel then an annoying person can cycle
through them all to generate large amounts of useless syslog.

~Ryan


  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-12 23:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-12 16:52 [PATCH 1/9] Known exploit detection vegard.nossum
2013-12-12 16:52 ` [PATCH 2/9] exploit: report to audit subsystem when available vegard.nossum
2013-12-12 16:52 ` [PATCH 3/9] hfs: Known exploit detection for CVE-2011-4330 vegard.nossum
2013-12-13  8:00   ` Dan Carpenter
2013-12-12 16:52 ` [PATCH 4/9] net: Known exploit detection for CVE-2012-2136 vegard.nossum
2013-12-12 16:52 ` [PATCH 5/9] hfsplus: Known exploit detection for CVE-2012-2319 vegard.nossum
2013-12-13  1:40   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-12-13 11:14   ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-12-12 16:52 ` [PATCH 6/9] x86: Known exploit detection for CVE-2013-0268 vegard.nossum
2013-12-12 16:52 ` [PATCH 7/9] drm/i915: Known exploit detection for CVE-2013-0913 vegard.nossum
2013-12-12 16:52 ` [PATCH 8/9] userns: Known exploit detection for CVE-2013-1959 vegard.nossum
2013-12-12 16:52 ` [PATCH 9/9] perf: Known exploit detection for CVE-2013-2094 vegard.nossum
2013-12-12 19:06 ` [PATCH 1/9] Known exploit detection Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-12 21:13   ` Kees Cook
2013-12-12 23:50     ` Ryan Mallon [this message]
2013-12-12 23:55       ` Kees Cook
2013-12-13 11:10         ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-12-13 14:21           ` Jiri Kosina
2013-12-13  9:20       ` Vegard Nossum
2013-12-13 22:49         ` Ryan Mallon
2013-12-13 13:06       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-13 15:55         ` Jason Cooper
2013-12-13 23:07         ` Ryan Mallon
2013-12-13  0:25     ` Dave Jones
2013-12-13  0:45       ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-12-13  1:42       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-12-13  1:44         ` Dave Jones
2013-12-13  5:09         ` James Morris
2013-12-13  5:46           ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-13 13:19             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-13 10:21           ` Vegard Nossum
2013-12-13 10:31         ` Alexander Holler
2013-12-13 11:48           ` Dan Carpenter
2013-12-13 11:57             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-12-13 13:23             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-13 18:00               ` Kees Cook
2013-12-13 17:58         ` Kees Cook
2013-12-13 18:14           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-13 18:37             ` Kees Cook
2013-12-13  5:27     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-13  9:32       ` Jiri Kosina
2013-12-13 18:07       ` Kees Cook
2013-12-13  9:12     ` Vegard Nossum
2013-12-13 13:27       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-13  8:20   ` Vegard Nossum
2013-12-14 23:59   ` Ryan Mallon
2013-12-13 12:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-16  5:17 ` Sasha Levin
2013-12-19  6:14 ` David Rientjes

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